From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BD9C001B0 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 21:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230300AbjHLVcr (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Aug 2023 17:32:47 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:59608 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229499AbjHLVcr (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Aug 2023 17:32:47 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 352021732 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 14:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C97E762016 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 21:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B7F4C433C9; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 21:32:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1691875969; bh=VMY5Dz7tnFnTGmrZVhelpnNoFWZem0hwXfIbo4Qw/wE=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=gQXfT42byZnlzLym4vlUp4Vk7DexfzT3j6QkRnSL6QQGgmJyBn5OYQKb/3RpO5aap SQu2AGzRn2V8SZV3cipGsUeXo1PQbBdDZyEdF1MGX2TimIso7VYW3XyjU83nyE0beH SQRkG25FCIniyMwfzApEy2x2OknExoy2GUj2hnmczFea1Pgy1dWe2ZzHr54vms4by0 DJdN1IyTMRN84VQaPxxFZVVO8XkXrkFbTQHVmOfcNhSXK+FaSaStiNLM6iqIuG05jn Yqfa3rzMAkSJ49W5zFObJm44q0BSzWYka1lPdIrbnTcRGt3sxaQwYWNSq19wVk0w2d 5AUJjUVgKtAmw== Message-ID: <6e547bb9-d993-da6f-e072-9daba019ea27@kernel.org> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 23:32:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.1 Subject: Re: No 6.05/.01 pdf book available Content-Language: en-US To: "G. Branden Robinson" Cc: Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca, linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Deri References: <094c0eacf60998465be28c605bef69f2f5742459.1691370798.git.Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca> <82937367-538d-46c7-19c8-5bab403fefd5@Shaw.ca> <01d3855b-65dc-8b99-83cf-ebe1f97a2d83@Shaw.ca> <20230812014809.zhhsz52saqwxbyh4@illithid> From: Alejandro Colomar Organization: Linux In-Reply-To: <20230812014809.zhhsz52saqwxbyh4@illithid> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------Lit9XHoYrNTaR9HdyK3JdCfU" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------Lit9XHoYrNTaR9HdyK3JdCfU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------S07RK0M7sgwPvYCiNIPfZTwO"; protected-headers="v1" From: Alejandro Colomar To: "G. Branden Robinson" Cc: Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca, linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Deri Message-ID: <6e547bb9-d993-da6f-e072-9daba019ea27@kernel.org> Subject: Re: No 6.05/.01 pdf book available References: <094c0eacf60998465be28c605bef69f2f5742459.1691370798.git.Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca> <82937367-538d-46c7-19c8-5bab403fefd5@Shaw.ca> <01d3855b-65dc-8b99-83cf-ebe1f97a2d83@Shaw.ca> <20230812014809.zhhsz52saqwxbyh4@illithid> In-Reply-To: <20230812014809.zhhsz52saqwxbyh4@illithid> --------------S07RK0M7sgwPvYCiNIPfZTwO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Branden, On 2023-08-12 03:48, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > Hi Alex, >=20 > At 2023-08-12T02:02:49+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote: >> On 2023-08-07 18:21, Brian Inglis wrote: >>>>> $ pwd >>>>> /home/alx/src/linux/man-pages/man-pages/6.04/scripts/LinuxManBook >>>>> $ ./BuildLinuxMan.pl ../../ >>>>> [...] >>>>> Failed to open 'DESC' >>> >>> That annoyingly minimal message provoked the patch submitted. >> >> Yeah; it took me some time to find the cause. The error message >> doesn't even tell who failed --was it the shell, was it gropdf, was it= >> troff?--. >> >> :) >=20 > This sort of thing makes me purple with rage and I have tried to purge > groff of such unhelpful diagnostics--especially those that are uttered > furtively by programs (or, worse, libraries) that attempt to remain > anonymous. Doug McIlroy was telling people to cut this crap out in 198= 6 > (or maybe a decade before that, even) and people _still_ ignore him. >=20 > https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/reader.pdf (p. 9) Hmm, that was an interesting read. It explains a few inconsistencies in the design of UNIX that I didn't understand. I didn't know pipes came so late into the timeline. :) Cheers, Alex >=20 > Much work was done on groff 1.23 to fix this, but I'm not certain all > such offenders have been rehabilitated. >=20 > https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?52463 >=20 > When you encounter one, strike it with lightning. >=20 > Regards, > Branden --=20 GPG key fingerprint: A9348594CE31283A826FBDD8D57633D441E25BB5 --------------S07RK0M7sgwPvYCiNIPfZTwO-- --------------Lit9XHoYrNTaR9HdyK3JdCfU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE6jqH8KTroDDkXfJAnowa+77/2zIFAmTX+ncACgkQnowa+77/ 2zKt8Q//aoMzoYUxNVvtbS3k38zK+9utuHa6TB9lCHkAhEcJiucJk7kd02OVgNDP dQnzAjaFsYd/qXybNsnpZP1/UzCE0s0n8TyGUwSuDIp9bW57c80a1LwtEa3CvTPz St3+NPc4fp42NJF9KSCHiUy2t+xX7GSbETThzHtjCnOolavbT1cC0Dj75fkERh9G yLLzlmQ2NZdFRaB/xcqPWIHT8TycXXknCA3iEw40VTzGhnmPVN5rtWWy53+aZ7IU mfAlAPRvWvW/ipvTwgv0Dz147xH0xocFyfwKJMFO6MKp4hhGihJNiOcOGssCBOEv EpyyK0W5Ujl8ORk4bmfnMWI4bQZJQM2Prnh130Yf9p/113UrU8frS7HDiWNF52os HrXjB7wNmwPiZFxDhYkf9JDlHNuzjUw7qTRRBIL903dSJLHy2BnO6H0CYEJam63/ wi5NwG7rZUpmsEhNeuRxuF6tpK1M5RIYiHVadz1njZ/uc0hdrnKHeIZPsV5oabqI eaABUb+0E1FjbuUpXXI+woYAXq8PkvIVGWhoQo+p4Sb5viMt7XcEi6rmyLnXIHcf BtT0Zue8SjM30uPeII4Z2dAyWfckZACbND5kGQJ/Iw06taYfvjZ166ES3MMaF4sa QDrPGQBhq9Wpp5+0/6LPRGx7/Dr3CaU5BP8/9G93tPtkUHGqMUo= =KbSV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------Lit9XHoYrNTaR9HdyK3JdCfU--