From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
Martin Sebor <msebor@redhat.com>,
"G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>,
Jakub Wilk <jwilk@jwilk.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 17:36:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <76d2db42-a3ba-9560-91ed-075e94c14f5c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKH6PiUrQzb7vRZxUs0742WnfaLpcUec0QfdJQJ5Di8LqFg+NA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Doug!
Thanks for having a look at it!
On 12/14/22 17:22, Douglas McIlroy wrote:
>> a sequence of zero or more non-null characters followed by a null byte
>
> Varying terminology (character vs byte) is poor style in technical writing.
I thought of using null character, but it was longer, and I prefer shorter terms.
About using byte for everything... it feels a bit wrong especially when I'm
trying to make a clear distinction between strings and character sequences that
don't have a terminating NUL.
And, since the two are distinct things that should not be mixed (as far as
strings are concerned), it doesn't feel so bad using different terms for them.
>
>> concatenate
>
> We began fighting this pomposity before v7. There has only been
> backsliding since..
> "Catenate" is crisper, means the same thing, and concurs with the "cat" command.
> I invite you to join the battle for simplicity.
Heh, I didn't know the word existed. In Spanish we only have "concatenar".
I'll happily join this battle for simplicity :)
>
>> chain copy
>
> This term is never overtly defined. The definition might be inferred
> from, "To chain copy
> functions, they need to return a pointer to the end", but the
> problematic grammar of the
> sentence diverts attention from its content.
Okay, I'll try to improve the wording in that paragraph; indeed that subsection
intended to define the "chain copy" term.
>
>> strscpy
>
> Doesn't it muddy the waters to include a non-library function in man3?
Initially I wanted to discuss it because it always comes up in discussions about
better string-copying functions.
But since I don't provide an implementation for it (since it's hard to get
right) (as opposed to the other functions that are not in libraries, for which I
show trivial implementations), and don't see it very useful, I can remove it.
Less lines wasted with it.
Maybe I'll keep a small mention to it.
>
> Doug
Cheers,
Alex
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-11 23:59 string_copy(7): New manual page documenting string copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 0:17 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 0:25 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 0:32 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 14:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 17:33 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 18:38 ` groff man(7) extensions (was: [PATCH 1/3] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions) G. Branden Robinson
2022-12-13 15:45 ` a Q quotation macro for man(7) (was: groff man(7) extensions) G. Branden Robinson
2022-12-12 23:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Rewrite strcpy(3) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-13 20:56 ` Jakub Wilk
2022-12-13 20:57 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-13 22:05 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-13 22:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 0:03 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] Rewritten page for string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 0:14 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 0:16 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:17 ` [PATCH v4 " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Rewrite pages about " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Rewrite documentation for " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] string_copy.7: Add page to document all " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-20 15:00 ` Stefan Puiu
2022-12-20 15:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-20 3:43 ` Eric Biggers
2023-01-20 12:55 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, ustpcpy.3, ustr2stp.3, zustr2stp.3, zustr2ustp.3: Add new links to string_copy(7) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] stpcpy.3, strcpy.3, strcat.3: Document in a single page Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] stpncpy.3, strncpy.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] strncat.3: Rewrite to be consistent with string_copy.7 Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] string_copy.7: Add page to document all string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, ustpcpy.3, ustr2stp.3, zustr2stp.3, zustr2ustp.3: Add new links to string_copy(7) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:27 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 18:47 ` Stefan Puiu
2022-12-16 19:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 19:09 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] stpcpy.3, strcpy.3, strcat.3: Document in a single page Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 14:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 14:47 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] stpncpy.3, strncpy.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:28 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] strncat.3: Rewrite to be consistent with string_copy.7 Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:17 ` [PATCH v4 1/1] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 0:03 ` [PATCH v3 " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:22 ` Douglas McIlroy
2022-12-14 16:36 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2022-12-14 17:11 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 17:19 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] stpcpy.3, stpncpy.3, strcat.3, strncat.3, strncpy.3: Transform the old pages into links to strcpy(3) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, strlcat.3, strlcpy.3, strscpy.3: Add new " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 14:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] stpcpy.3, stpncpy.3, strcat.3, strncat.3, strncpy.3: Transform the old pages into " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 14:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, strlcat.3, strlcpy.3, strscpy.3: Add new " Alejandro Colomar
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