Re: [PATCH v4] CONTRIBUTING.d/ai: Add guidelines banning AI for contributing

[Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>]

Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org> writes:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 12:03:07PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> > In v4, I've added a paragraph clarifying that AI assistive tools are
>> > also included in the bad.
>> 
>> Isn't this the *opposite* of Gentoo's policy and QEMU's policy?
>
> It is the opposite of what Gentoo claims their policy says.  But it's
> what my read of their policy says (and I'm not alone there, as the same
> interpretation was mentioned in libc-alpha@).  They should clarify their
> policy if they don't mean what it says.

I already said we plan on it. I thought that was pretty clear.

>
>> We should base the contribution policy on things we can objectively
>> measure and claim.
>> 
>> Rejecting AI content in contributions is objective and measurable
>> since you can't attest the DCO clearly with this content.
>
> Rejecting AI content would follow the first concern, but the second and
> third concerns would be entirely ignored by a policy that permits AI
> static analyzers.
>

It is hard in my mind to justify rejecting TTS or similar that may be
based on AI.

>> > diff --git a/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai b/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai
>> > new file mode 100644
>> > index 000000000..faab2df1b
>> > --- /dev/null
>> > +++ b/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai
>> > @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
>> > +Name
>> > +	AI - artificial intelligence policy
>> > +
>> > +Description
>> > +	It is expressly forbidden to contribute to this project any
>> > +	content that has been created with the assistance of AI tools.
>> 
>> This is OK, the forbiddance is on the created content.
>
> 	"created *with the assistance* of AI tools"
>
> If I write some code, and iterate over it by passing it through static
> analyzers and editing as appropriate, I'd say the code has been created
> with the assistance of those tools.
>
> Let's consider this example from The Lord of the Rings.  Did Celebrimbor
> create the three Elven rings with assistance of Sauron?  Sauron did not
> produce the rings, but it influenced the author enough to introduce
> vulnerabilities in the rings.
>
>> > +
>> > +	This also includes AI assistive tools used in the contributing
>> > +	process, even if such tools do not generate the contributed
>> > +	code.
>> 
>> I object strongly to this paragraph.
>> 
>> It is the *opposite* of what Gentoo's policy intended.
>> 
>> This is policy over-reach into the lives of contributors.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Alex