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Sun, 21 Dec 2025 16:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fedora ([2601:646:8081:3770::fde9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a92af1059eb24-1217253bfe2sm28767466c88.10.2025.12.21.16.58.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 21 Dec 2025 16:58:10 -0800 (PST) From: Collin Funk To: Alejandro Colomar Cc: Seth McDonald , "linux-man@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: Early POSIX versions seldom included in history sections In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2025 16:58:06 -0800 Message-ID: <87bjjrbae9.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Hi Seth and Alex, Alejandro Colomar writes: >> Suppose instead a function was first introduced in SUSv2, included in >> POSIX.1-2001 as an XSI extension, then in POSIX.1-2008 it was moved to >> Base. Should its history section include POSIX.1-2001 or POSIX.1-2008 as >> its first POSIX appearance (since XSI is SUS)? > > I think you could do this: > > SUSv2. > POSIX.1-2001 (XSI). > POSIX.1-2008. Just want to mention that I find all of these document names confusing. Maybe because some of them predate me, or predate me using a computer, I do not know. Therefore, I thought I should mention the names are described in standards(7) along with the full documents they correspond to. I would stick to the names listed there for consistency. That is what I have done when making changes to the glibc and gnulib manuals. 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