From: Collin Funk <collin.funk1@gmail.com>
To: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
Cc: Seth McDonald <sethmcmail@pm.me>,
Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/4] sys/man2/sysctl.2: HISTORY: wfix
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 23:40:11 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ldikxvs4.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251230072756.c25thnpent43mjma@illithid>
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"G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> writes:
> At 2025-12-30T07:18:50+0000, Seth McDonald wrote:
>> > [1] https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2.11BSD/src/man/man3/sysctl.3
>>
>> That would be good to include, though we may need to first modify
>> standards(7) since 2.11BSD currently isn't listed there (the earliest
>> mentioned is 3BSD).
>
> The date on that file, 1993, strongly suggests a backport from the
> then-getting-finalized 4.4BSD (which settled out over the course of 1994
> and into 1995 depending on whether one considers the "Encumbered" or
> "Lite" versions mandated by the settlement of the USL v. BSDI lawsuit).
>
> 4.3BSD, by contrast, dates to 1986. See my previous mail.
>
> So in that sense, a sysctl()-bearing 2.11BSD is more recent than
> 4.3BSD.
It does say 1993, but it also has the following:
.\" @(#)sysctl.3 8.1.1 (2.11BSD GTE) 1/13/95
.\"
.TH SYSCTL 3 "January 13, 1995"
The first line being used by SCCS? That is an assumption since I have
never used it.
> I suggest the Linux man-pages project not attempt to track the
> provenance or timeline of 2.11BSD features. It's too much work.
And there is probably not much practical benefit, i.e., just some (very
few, probably) people interested in the history.
Collin
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-30 6:41 [PATCH v1 0/4] Miscellaneous fixes seth.i.mcdonald
2025-12-30 6:42 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] man/man2/syscall.2: Add HISTORY section seth.i.mcdonald
2025-12-30 6:42 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] sys/man2/sysctl.2: HISTORY: wfix seth.i.mcdonald
2025-12-30 6:59 ` Collin Funk
2025-12-30 7:18 ` Seth McDonald
2025-12-30 7:27 ` G. Branden Robinson
2025-12-30 7:40 ` Collin Funk [this message]
2025-12-30 7:53 ` G. Branden Robinson
2025-12-30 11:34 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-12-30 7:22 ` Is 2.11BSD < 4BSD? It depends. (was: [PATCH v1 2/4] sys/man2/sysctl.2: HISTORY: wfix) G. Branden Robinson
2025-12-30 7:35 ` Is 2.11BSD < 4BSD? It depends Collin Funk
2025-12-30 6:42 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] man/man2/utime.2: SYNOPSIS: ffix seth.i.mcdonald
2025-12-30 6:42 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] man/man2const/F_GETSIG.2const: HISTORY: tfix seth.i.mcdonald
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