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From: Collin Funk <collin.funk1@gmail.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org,  libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: POSIX.1-2024 requires 64-bit time_t
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 09:54:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87plg5hnb4.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <zagbrxifsyor6bxzkqi7b66ixw3q67vez2nng7aqjpykkohph3@plmaq4pfz3yf>

Hi Alejandro,

Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org> writes:

> POSIX.1-2024 seems to require a 64-bit (or wider) time_t.  I don't know
> how's the state of things as of now in glibc, so would you mind checking
> the time_t(3type) manual page and letting me know if anything needs to
> be updated or moved to history?
>
> At first glancce, I see
>
> DESCRIPTION
>        time_t Used for time in seconds.  According to POSIX,
>               it is an integer type.
>
> where I'll have to append "of at least 64 bits".  Then, there's
>
> NOTES
>        On some architectures, the width  of  time_t  can  be
>        controlled  with  the  feature test macro _TIME_BITS.
>        See feature_test_macros(7).
>
> Which sounds redundant with the new requirements.  That sounds like it's
> for architectures that are non-conforming only, right?  In the
> conforming ones, it wouldn't make sense.  So, we'll need to clarify
> which architectures are conforming and which are not.  Please let me
> know.

I documented this in glibc in commit
363bbdbd2aeaae1e00f3872f2ba19a4a3c17bdf1:

    manual: Mention POSIX-1.2024 requires time_t to be 64 bit or wider.
    
    * manual/time.texi (Time Types): Mention POSIX-1.2024 requires 64 bit
    time_t.
    
    Signed-off-by: Collin Funk <collin.funk1@gmail.com>
    Reviewed-by: Adhemerval Zanella  <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>

But as you mention and as documented in the manual, some older platforms
default to 32-bits unless _TIME_BITS is set to 64:

    Currently the @code{time_t} type is 64 bits wide on all platforms
    supported by @theglibc{}, except that it is 32 bits wide on a few
    older platforms unless you define @code{_TIME_BITS} to 64.

I'll have to investigate the full list of architectures which that is
the case.

Collin

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-18 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-18  9:58 POSIX.1-2024 requires 64-bit time_t Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-18 16:54 ` Collin Funk [this message]
2025-05-18 21:52   ` Mark Harris
2025-05-18 22:06     ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-18 22:09       ` Mark Harris
2025-05-18 22:13         ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-18 22:46     ` Collin Funk
2025-05-19 11:31     ` Andreas K. Huettel

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