Re: [PATCH v4] CONTRIBUTING.d/ai: Add guidelines banning AI for contributing

[Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>]

Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org> writes:

> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 09:03:28PM +0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>> Hi Sam,
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 07:49:50PM +0100, Sam James wrote:
>> > >> We should base the contribution policy on things we can objectively
>> > >> measure and claim.
>> > >> 
>> > >> Rejecting AI content in contributions is objective and measurable
>> > >> since you can't attest the DCO clearly with this content.
>> > >
>> > > Rejecting AI content would follow the first concern, but the second and
>> > > third concerns would be entirely ignored by a policy that permits AI
>> > > static analyzers.
>> > >
>> > 
>> > It is hard in my mind to justify rejecting TTS or similar that may be
>> > based on AI.
>
> BTW, I assume TTS means text-to-speech.  Please don't use abbreviations
> not supported by wtf(1), or parenthesize their meaning in the first use.

I normally try to honour that. Anyway, I'm not interested in discussing
further at this time. I don't think the way you've suggested this
subproposal is constructive.

>
>> 
>> The following is enough, IMO, as justification:
>> 
>> 	Ethical concerns.
>> 		The business side of AI boom is creating serious ethical
>> 		concerns.  Among them:
>> 
>> 		-  Commercial AI projects are frequently indulging in
>> 		   blatant copyright violations to train their models.
>> 		-  Their operations are causing concerns about the huge
>> 		   use of energy, water, and other natural resources.
>> 		-  The advertising and use of AI models has caused
>> 		   a significant harm to employees and reduction of
>> 		   service quality.
>> 		-  LLMs have been empowering all kinds of spam and scam
>> 		   efforts.
>> 
>> 	Quality concerns.
>> 		Popular LLMs are really great at generating plausibly
>> 		looking, but meaningless content.  They pose both the
>> 		risk of lowering the quality of a project, and of
>> 		requiring an unfair human effort from contributors and
>> 		maintainers to review contributions and detect the
>> 		mistakes resulting from the use of AI.
>> 
>> 		AI tools should be considered adversarial, as if they
>> 		were a black box with Jia Tan inside them.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Alex
>> 
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