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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Mathias Stearn <mathias@mongodb.com>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Jinjie Ruan <ruanjinjie@huawei.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Chris Kennelly <ckennelly@google.com>,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Blake Oler <blake.oler@mongodb.com>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] rseq: refactoring in v6.19 broke everyone on arm64 and tcmalloc everywhere
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 16:16:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7dgzbo7.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHnCjA1LqbaUGkPe79EeP6Mpaki8QWeR-JBSbrG0z6pTm9CmUg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 24 2026 at 10:32, Mathias Stearn wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 9:57 AM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
>> The only problem is with membarrier (it used to force write to
>> __rseq_abi.cpu_id_start for all threads, but now it does not).
>> Otherwise the caching scheme works.
>
> I almost wrote a message last night saying that we didn't need
> cpu_id_start invalidation on preemption. However, I remembered that
> the Grow() function[1] does a load outside of a critical section then
> stores a derived value inside the critical section, guarded only by
> the cpu_id_start invalidation check in StoreCurrentCpu[2]. It really
> should be doing a compare against the original value inside the
> critical section (or just do the whole thing inside), but it doesn't.
> I haven't reasoned end-to-end through this fully to prove corruption
> is possible, but I suspect that it is if another thread same-cpu
> preempts between the loads and the store and updates the header before
> the original thread resumes and writes its original intended header
> value. Ditto for signals, which sometimes allocate even though they
> shouldn't.
>
> I was really hoping that we would only need to do the "redundant"
> cpu_id_start writes would only be needed on membarrier_rseq IPIs where
> it really is a pay-for-what-you-use functionality,

That's fine and can be solved without adding this sequence overhead into
the scheduler hotpath.

> I think existing binaries depend on invalidation on
> preemption. Luckily that should be cheap enough to be ~free.

That's only free when it can be burried in the rseq_cs update, which
means the ID update would not happen when rseq_cs is NULL.

If those two changes fix it w/o requiring additional tcmalloc changes,
I'm happy to hack that up tomorrow.

Thanks,

        tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-24 14:16 UTC|newest]

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2026-04-23  5:53           ` [REGRESSION] rseq: refactoring in v6.19 broke everyone on arm64 and tcmalloc everywhere Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-23 10:39             ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23 10:51               ` Mathias Stearn
2026-04-23 12:24                 ` David Laight
2026-04-23 19:31                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-24  7:56                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-24  8:32                     ` Mathias Stearn
2026-04-24  9:30                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-24 14:16                       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-04-24 15:03                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-24 19:44                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-26 22:04                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-27  7:40                               ` Florian Weimer
2026-04-27 11:03                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-27 18:35                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-04-27 21:06                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-28  6:11                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-28  8:07                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-28  8:18                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-28 10:53                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-28 13:31                                       ` Mathias Stearn
2026-04-28 15:46                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-28  7:39                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-28  8:13                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-28  8:51                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-28  8:03                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-28  8:36                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23 12:11             ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-04-23 12:54               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-04-23 12:29             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-04-23 12:36               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-23 12:53                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-04-23 12:58                   ` Dmitry Vyukov

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