From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Puiu <stefan.puiu@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
Martin Sebor <msebor@redhat.com>,
"G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>,
Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>,
Jakub Wilk <jwilk@jwilk.net>, Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>,
Iker Pedrosa <ipedrosa@redhat.com>,
Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/5] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, ustpcpy.3, ustr2stp.3, zustr2stp.3, zustr2ustp.3: Add new links to string_copy(7)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 20:09:15 +0100 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <5abac28c-e8fa-d62b-2211-5ddd6820e882@gmail.com>
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On 12/16/22 20:03, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> On 12/16/22 19:47, Stefan Puiu wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:46 AM Alejandro Colomar
>> <alx.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> An implementation of these functions might be:
>>>
>>> char *
>>> stpcpy(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src)
>>> {
>>> char *end;
>>>
>>> end = mempcpy(dst, src, strlen(src));
>>> *end = '\0';
>>>
>>> return end;
>>> }
>>>
>>> char *
>>> strcpy(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src)
>>> {
>>> stpcpy(dst, src);
>>> return dst;
>>> }
>>>
>>> char *
>>> strcat(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src)
>>> {
>>> stpcpy(dst + strlen(dst), src);
>>> return dst;
>>> }
>>
>> Are you sure this section adds any value? I think good documentation
>> should explain how a function works without delving into the
>> interpretation.
>
> To be honest, this page doesn't benefit too much from it. strcpy(3)/strcat(3)
> are dead simple, and the explanations above should be enough.
>
> However, the same thing in strncpy(3) and strncat(3) is very helpful, IMO. For
> consistency I just showed trivial implementations in all of the pages. (And in
> fact, there was an example implementation in the old strncat(3) and maybe a few
> others, IIRC.)
>
>> Also, people might get confused and think this is the
>> actual implementation.
>
> I don't think there's any problem if one believes this is the implementation.
> Except for stpcpy(3), in which I preferred readability, they are actually quite
> good implementations. A faster implementation of stpcpy(3) might be done in
> terms of memccpy(3).
>
> Funnily enough, I just checked what musl libc does, and it's the same as shown
> here:
>
>
> alx@debian:~/src/musl/musl$ grepc -tfd strcpy
> ./src/string/strcpy.c:3:
> char *strcpy(char *restrict dest, const char *restrict src)
> {
> __stpcpy(dest, src);
> return dest;
> }
> alx@debian:~/src/musl/musl$ grepc -tfd strcat
> ./src/string/strcat.c:3:
> char *strcat(char *restrict dest, const char *restrict src)
> {
> strcpy(dest + strlen(dest), src);
> return dest;
> }
>
>
And considering memccpy(3) is defined in terms of memchr(3) and mempcpy(3) in
glibc, I don't feel so bad about my own stpcpy(3) :). See:
alx@debian:~/src/gnu/glibc$ grepc -tfd __memccpy
./string/memccpy.c:30:
void *
__memccpy (void *dest, const void *src, int c, size_t n)
{
void *p = memchr (src, c, n);
if (p != NULL)
return __mempcpy (dest, src, p - src + 1);
memcpy (dest, src, n);
return NULL;
}
Cheers,
Alex
>>
>>>
>>> RETURN VALUE
>>> stpcpy()
>>> This function returns a pointer to the terminating null byte at
>>> the end of the copied string.
>>>
>>> strcpy()
>>> strcat()
>>> These functions return dest.
>>>
>>> ATTRIBUTES
>>> For an explanation of the terms used in this section, see attrib‐
>>> utes(7).
>>>
>>> ┌────────────────────────────────────────────┬───────────────┬─────────┐
>>> │Interface │ Attribute │
>>> Value │
>>>
>>> ├────────────────────────────────────────────┼───────────────┼─────────┤
>>> │stpcpy(), strcpy(), strcat() │ Thread safety │
>>> MT‐Safe │
>>>
>>> └────────────────────────────────────────────┴───────────────┴─────────┘
>>>
>>> STANDARDS
>>> stpcpy()
>>> POSIX.1‐2008.
>>>
>>> strcpy()
>>> strcat()
>>> POSIX.1‐2001, POSIX.1‐2008, C89, C99, SVr4, 4.3BSD.
>>>
>>> CAVEATS
>>> The strings src and dst may not overlap.
>>>
>>> If the destination buffer is not large enough, the behavior is unde‐
>>> fined. See _FORTIFY_SOURCE in feature_test_macros(7).
>>>
>>> BUGS
>>> strcat()
>>> This function can be very inefficient. Read about Shlemiel
>>> the painter ⟨https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/12/11/
>>> back-to-basics/⟩.
>>
>> I'm not sure this is a bug, rather a design limitation. Maybe it
>> belongs in NOTES or CAVEATS?
>
> Yeah, I had been thinking of downgrading it. I'll do it.
>
>> Also, I think this can be summarized
>> along the lines of 'strcat needs to walk the destination buffer to
>> find the null terminator, so it has linear complexity with respect to
>> the size of the destination buffer up to the terminator' (hmm, I'm
>> sure this can be expressed more concisely), so the page is more self
>> contained. Outside links sometimes go dead, like on Wikipedia, so I
>> think just in case, it helps to make explicit the point that you want
>> the reader to study further in the URL.
>
> I wasn't inspired to write it short enough to not be too verbose. Maybe I'll
> write something based on your suggestion.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stefan.
>
> Thanks for the review!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alex
>
>>
>>>
>>> EXAMPLES
>>> #include <stdio.h>
>>> #include <stdlib.h>
>>> #include <string.h>
>>>
>>> int
>>> main(void)
>>> {
>>> char *p;
>>> char buf1[BUFSIZ];
>>> char buf2[BUFSIZ];
>>> size_t len;
>>>
>>> p = buf1;
>>> p = stpcpy(p, "Hello ");
>>> p = stpcpy(p, "world");
>>> p = stpcpy(p, "!");
>>> len = p - buf1;
>>>
>>> printf("[len = %zu]: ", len);
>>> puts(buf1); // "Hello world!"
>>>
>>> strcpy(buf2, "Hello ");
>>> strcat(buf2, "world");
>>> strcat(buf2, "!");
>>> len = strlen(buf2);
>>>
>>> printf("[len = %zu]: ", len);
>>> puts(buf2); // "Hello world!"
>>>
>>> exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
>>> }
>>>
>>> SEE ALSO
>>> strdup(3), string(3), wcscpy(3), string_copy(7)
>>>
>>> Linux man‐pages (unreleased) (date) strcpy(3)
>>>
>>> --
>>> <http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>
>
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2022-12-11 23:59 string_copy(7): New manual page documenting string copying functions Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-12 0:25 ` Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-12 14:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 17:33 ` Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-12 23:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Rewrite strcpy(3) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-13 20:56 ` Jakub Wilk
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2022-12-13 22:05 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-13 22:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 0:03 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] Rewritten page for string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-14 0:16 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:17 ` [PATCH v4 " Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Rewrite documentation for " Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-20 15:00 ` Stefan Puiu
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2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, ustpcpy.3, ustr2stp.3, zustr2stp.3, zustr2ustp.3: Add new links to string_copy(7) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] stpcpy.3, strcpy.3, strcat.3: Document in a single page Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] stpncpy.3, strncpy.3: " Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-16 19:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 19:09 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] stpcpy.3, strcpy.3, strcat.3: Document in a single page Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 14:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] stpncpy.3, strncpy.3: " Alejandro Colomar
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2022-12-15 0:26 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] strncat.3: Rewrite to be consistent with string_copy.7 Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15 0:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:17 ` [PATCH v4 1/1] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 0:03 ` [PATCH v3 " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:22 ` Douglas McIlroy
2022-12-14 16:36 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 17:11 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 17:19 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] stpcpy.3, stpncpy.3, strcat.3, strncat.3, strncpy.3: Transform the old pages into links to strcpy(3) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, strlcat.3, strlcpy.3, strscpy.3: Add new " Alejandro Colomar
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