From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
Jens Axboe <axboe-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pipe.2: document sysctls
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:47:16 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ce97416-f1d4-777b-6913-a6c5349b7df9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57B020A8.7070501-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Hello Vegard,
On 08/14/2016 07:41 PM, Vegard Nossum wrote:
> On 08/14/2016 01:13 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. I've added this text to pipe(7) (rather than pipe(2)), and
>> expanded it considerably:
>
> Good idea!
>
>>
>> /proc files
>> On Linux, the following files control how much memory can be used
>> for pipes:
>>
>> /proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-pages (only in Linux 2.6.34)
>> An upper limit, in pages, on the capacity that an unprivi‐
>> leged user (one without the CAP_SYS_RESOURCE capability) can
>> set for a pipe. The default value for this limit is 16
>> times the default pipe capacity (see above); the lower
>> limit is two pages. This interface was removed in Linux
>> 2.6.35, in favor of /proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-size.
>>
>> /proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-size (since Linux 2.6.35)
>> The maximum size (in bytes) of individual pipes created or
>
> I think I had a mistake in my original text because this limit is not
> checked at creation time (the default pipe size, PIPE_DEF_BUFFERS, is
> used even when it is greater than pipe-max-size), so maybe we can take
> out the "created or".
Hmmm -- that's true. It seems a little weird that one can create a pipe
whose initial size exceeds pipe-max-size. Should we fix that in the kernel?
(I can add a third patch to my series.) Setting pipe-max-size lower than
PIPE_DEF_BUFFERS is an admittedly an odd set up, so maybe it's not worth
changing the code(?).
I removed the "created or".
>> set by users without the CAP_SYS_RESOURCE capability. The
>> default value for this file is 1048576. Attempts to set a
>> limit less than the page size cause write(2) to fail with
>> the error EINVAL.
>
> Maybe add in a paranthesis that 1048576 is 1 MiB?
Done.
>>
>> /proc/sys/fs/pipe-user-pages-hard (since Linux 4.5)
>> The hard limit on the total size (in pages) of all pipes
>> created or set by a single unprivileged user (i.e., one
>> with neither the CAP_SYS_RESOURCE nor the CAP_SYS_ADMIN
>> capability). So long as the total number of pages allo‐
>> cated to pipe buffers for this user is at this limit,
>> attempts to create new pipes will be denied, and attempts
>> to increase a pipe's capacity will be denied.
>>
>> When the value of this limit is zero (which is the
>> default), no hard limit is applied.
>>
>> /proc/sys/fs/pipe-user-pages-soft (since Linux 4.5)
>> The soft limit on the total size (in pages) of all pipes
>> created or set by a single unprivileged user (.e., one with
>> neither the CAP_SYS_RESOURCE nor the CAP_SYS_ADMIN capabil‐
>> ity). So long as the total number of pages allocated to
>> pipe buffers for this user is at this limit, individual
>> pipes created by a user will be limited to one page, and
>> attempts to increase a pipe's capacity will be denied.
>>
>> When the value of this limit is zero, no soft limit is
>> applied. The default value for this file is 16384, which
>> permits creating up to 1024 pipes with the default capac‐
>> ity.
>>
>> How does the above seem?
>
> It looks great, thanks for cleaning up my measly attempt.
No problem. Yet again, documenting the API well finds some interesting
bugs ;-).
Cheers,
Michael
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-12 15:35 [PATCH 1/2] pipe.2: mention fcntl and F_GETPIPE_SZ/F_SETPIPE_SZ Vegard Nossum
[not found] ` <1471016112-18025-1-git-send-email-vegard.nossum-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-12 15:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] pipe.2: document sysctls Vegard Nossum
[not found] ` <908c5c9e-f4b0-b274-e124-e5b7b505fde6@gmail.com>
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2016-08-13 23:43 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-14 7:41 ` Vegard Nossum
[not found] ` <57B020A8.7070501-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-14 8:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2016-08-16 21:47 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2016-08-12 20:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] pipe.2: mention fcntl and F_GETPIPE_SZ/F_SETPIPE_SZ Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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