* [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix
@ 2023-02-15 13:07 Tom Schwindl
2023-02-15 15:18 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-02-15 17:17 ` Jakub Wilk
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Tom Schwindl @ 2023-02-15 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alejandro Colomar; +Cc: linux-man
Signed-off-by: Tom Schwindl <schwindl@posteo.de>
---
man3/memcmp.3 | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/man3/memcmp.3 b/man3/memcmp.3
index c2427a00ac12..26aeaa439e78 100644
--- a/man3/memcmp.3
+++ b/man3/memcmp.3
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ Instead, a function that performs comparisons in constant time is required.
Some operating systems provide such a function (e.g., NetBSD's
.BR consttime_memequal ()),
but no such function is specified in POSIX.
-On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function oneself.
+On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function yourself.
.SH SEE ALSO
.BR bstring (3),
.BR strcasecmp (3),
--
2.39.1
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* Re: [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix
2023-02-15 13:07 [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix Tom Schwindl
@ 2023-02-15 15:18 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-02-15 16:11 ` Tom Schwindl
2023-02-15 17:17 ` Jakub Wilk
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: G. Branden Robinson @ 2023-02-15 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Schwindl; +Cc: Alejandro Colomar, linux-man
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At 2023-02-15T13:07:50+0000, Tom Schwindl wrote:
> -On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function oneself.
> +On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function yourself.
The existing language is sound. What is the motivation for the change?
Regards,
Branden
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* Re: [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix
2023-02-15 15:18 ` G. Branden Robinson
@ 2023-02-15 16:11 ` Tom Schwindl
2023-02-15 17:00 ` Alejandro Colomar
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From: Tom Schwindl @ 2023-02-15 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: G. Branden Robinson; +Cc: Alejandro Colomar, linux-man
On Wed Feb 15, 2023 at 4:18 PM CET, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2023-02-15T13:07:50+0000, Tom Schwindl wrote:
> > -On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function oneself.
> > +On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function yourself.
>
> The existing language is sound. What is the motivation for the change?
>
> Regards,
> Branden
From a formal perspective it's probably fine. But as a reader, I think it sounds
wrong. Or at least strange. That may be because I'm not a native speaker, but
neither is the majority of the manpage readers.
I simply think that "yourself" sounds better in this context. That's also the
reason for this patch. I've read the manpage and hesitated for a short moment
which, for me, indicates a poor choice of words. A `grep -i -r oneself` also
only yields a single result, this manpage.
--
Best Regards,
Tom Schwindl
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* Re: [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix
2023-02-15 16:11 ` Tom Schwindl
@ 2023-02-15 17:00 ` Alejandro Colomar
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2023-02-15 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Schwindl, G. Branden Robinson; +Cc: Alejandro Colomar, linux-man
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Hi Tom,
On 2/15/23 17:11, Tom Schwindl wrote:
> On Wed Feb 15, 2023 at 4:18 PM CET, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
>> At 2023-02-15T13:07:50+0000, Tom Schwindl wrote:
>>> -On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function oneself.
>>> +On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function yourself.
>>
>> The existing language is sound. What is the motivation for the change?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Branden
>
> From a formal perspective it's probably fine. But as a reader, I think it sounds
> wrong. Or at least strange. That may be because I'm not a native speaker, but
> neither is the majority of the manpage readers.
> I simply think that "yourself" sounds better in this context. That's also the
> reason for this patch. I've read the manpage and hesitated for a short moment
> which, for me, indicates a poor choice of words. A `grep -i -r oneself` also
> only yields a single result, this manpage.
To me, the existing text reads fine. Maybe it's because in my language
(Spanish), there's a similar expression for oneself, which may not exist
in other languages?
I'd keep it as it, unless I see more similar reports. Anyway, thanks
for the report!
Cheers,
Alex
>
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* Re: [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix
2023-02-15 13:07 [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix Tom Schwindl
2023-02-15 15:18 ` G. Branden Robinson
@ 2023-02-15 17:17 ` Jakub Wilk
2023-02-15 17:26 ` Alejandro Colomar
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From: Jakub Wilk @ 2023-02-15 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Schwindl; +Cc: Alejandro Colomar, G. Branden Robinson, linux-man
* Tom Schwindl <schwindl@posteo.de>, 2023-02-15 13:07:
>-On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function oneself.
This sounds awkward to me too.
>+On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function yourself.
This is better, but I'd use active voice here:
On Linux, you may need to implement such a function yourself.
(I'm not a native speaker.)
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Jakub Wilk
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* Re: [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix
2023-02-15 17:17 ` Jakub Wilk
@ 2023-02-15 17:26 ` Alejandro Colomar
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From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2023-02-15 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Wilk, Tom Schwindl
Cc: Alejandro Colomar, G. Branden Robinson, linux-man
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Hi Jakub,
On 2/15/23 18:17, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Tom Schwindl <schwindl@posteo.de>, 2023-02-15 13:07:
>> -On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function oneself.
>
> This sounds awkward to me too.
>
>> +On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function yourself.
>
> This is better, but I'd use active voice here:
>
> On Linux, you may need to implement such a function yourself.
Seems reasonable. By using active voice, you make it more personal,
and "yourself" sounds more appropriate than "oneself".
Would any of you please send a patch?
Thanks for the reports!
Cheers,
Alex
>
> (I'm not a native speaker.)
>
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* [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix
@ 2023-02-15 17:33 Tom Schwindl
2023-02-15 17:41 ` Alejandro Colomar
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From: Tom Schwindl @ 2023-02-15 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alejandro Colomar; +Cc: linux-man
Signed-off-by: Tom Schwindl <schwindl@posteo.de>
---
man3/memcmp.3 | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/man3/memcmp.3 b/man3/memcmp.3
index c2427a00ac12..de712bd0ae13 100644
--- a/man3/memcmp.3
+++ b/man3/memcmp.3
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ Instead, a function that performs comparisons in constant time is required.
Some operating systems provide such a function (e.g., NetBSD's
.BR consttime_memequal ()),
but no such function is specified in POSIX.
-On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function oneself.
+On Linux, you may need to implement such a function yourself.
.SH SEE ALSO
.BR bstring (3),
.BR strcasecmp (3),
--
2.39.1
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* Re: [PATCH] memcmp.3: wfix
2023-02-15 17:33 Tom Schwindl
@ 2023-02-15 17:41 ` Alejandro Colomar
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2023-02-15 17:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Schwindl
Cc: linux-man, G. Branden Robinson, Jakub Wilk, Alejandro Colomar
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Hi Tom,
On 2/15/23 18:33, Tom Schwindl wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Tom Schwindl <schwindl@posteo.de>
Patch applied. Thanks!
Cheers,
Alex
> ---
> man3/memcmp.3 | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/man3/memcmp.3 b/man3/memcmp.3
> index c2427a00ac12..de712bd0ae13 100644
> --- a/man3/memcmp.3
> +++ b/man3/memcmp.3
> @@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ Instead, a function that performs comparisons in constant time is required.
> Some operating systems provide such a function (e.g., NetBSD's
> .BR consttime_memequal ()),
> but no such function is specified in POSIX.
> -On Linux, it may be necessary to implement such a function oneself.
> +On Linux, you may need to implement such a function yourself.
> .SH SEE ALSO
> .BR bstring (3),
> .BR strcasecmp (3),
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