From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from layka.disroot.org (layka.disroot.org [178.21.23.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51F791F959 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=178.21.23.139 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1710801174; cv=none; b=f3fN2SooxbNi7fW9abrSdAXRBq6QuJYkvOZzr9lh04/z7y7am4VogmEYBIb19DtxrAPZwKqWjcfuIzu+3y3I6+9jIDtsY1gCzQecHVc9ZDB7mC1znjA+2HZu+d4PeFrHA7+Kik2StCR1UfkiguxU2ZmPVDgMHgFWQ70oLG0r2KM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1710801174; c=relaxed/simple; bh=VMmoSF/064l06N9l9HxQuPujCQvRMgSMZ7pHSTU1fEY=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:To:Cc:Subject:From: References:In-Reply-To; b=otqjnhQPE1p839gG4xEC3DXHHEwbn6fcmAon5C5hrEi3MPwDwA9UTWnR4Aah8E2iRpItwpq77CtpR1j+ZZRT2SBaWuwLewgy8VxTZU8sp9wHyTtUWvJtfDqcN9T7U1wq8+9wQsa6ihhws+XxijUMiWoP4kIsmpzk2F9Zgy26XDU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=disroot.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=disroot.org header.i=@disroot.org header.b=DkZxtvK4; arc=none smtp.client-ip=178.21.23.139 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=disroot.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=disroot.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=disroot.org header.i=@disroot.org header.b="DkZxtvK4" Received: from mail01.disroot.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C134F4142E; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 23:32:50 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Received: from layka.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89inlCMdnEw3; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 23:32:50 +0100 (CET) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1710801170; bh=VMmoSF/064l06N9l9HxQuPujCQvRMgSMZ7pHSTU1fEY=; h=Date:To:Cc:Subject:From:References:In-Reply-To; b=DkZxtvK4q6Z+eY6Mw7pw78wS+7qOtxhPpc40lpiFC3M2ugQqJovuAFxPuvXYdlrcU P4U5dMnvO4hsD3LDEkW3S0MiUS8U6ZUsUPjkXYNraAmDik4KOAvs7qag4hbaIb4fs7 1vOJB0UFiiqj3lIlRW213GsFmo+9HPQLikV4g7Wv4QjxjMOy3u2EmaloUS9+N5FmxU E8XNvMlizwQR+IdUiERDG1QsEAK6lnEyRWCU07qKO0nPw4vCY96AfrNanXYJG/CuDm EwwVNWXt0Ik1ZdcZCEIiGg8Z3Tf8DsVYtzVfZSJX+DThwAsSC6grGlhhWj6diC/l4q T49d3pM+kZykw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:32:42 +1300 Message-Id: To: "Alejandro Colomar" , "G. Branden Robinson" Cc: Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] intro.1: Revise language From: "Jeremy Baxter" References: <20240317080850.28564-3-jtbx@disroot.org> <20240318195657.bihsax5gk5jx5tyc@illithid> In-Reply-To: On Tue Mar 19, 2024 at 11:05 AM NZDT, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > Hi Jeremy, Branden, > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 02:56:57PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > At 2024-03-19T08:50:21+1300, Jeremy Baxter wrote: > > > > cat will show > > > > but > > > > cp copies > > > > ? > > >=20 > > > I think it sounds better to use the "x does this" form rather than th= e > > > "x will do this" form, similar to what they have in the utilities' ow= n > > > man pages. What do you think? Should I change cat's description to > > > adhere to the rest or just keep all of them as they were? > >=20 > > Two rules I've been applying to my man page revisions for a while are: > >=20 > > * Favor active voice over passive. > > * Favor present tense over future. > >=20 > > This is "favor", not "always use", but, other things being equal... > > For intro(1), we could make an exception. A less formal voice might > seem more friendly to newcomers. Don't you think? > > BTW Jeremy, you could send less changes. I'm not very happy about such > huge changes suddenly. How about fixing what you feel is most obvious > that should be fixed, say 20 lines or so, and in a month or so we can > discuss another patch set for this page? No worries, splitting the patch over time sounds good. Sorry for the inconvenience. ~Jeremy > > Have a lovely day! > Alex > > >=20 > > Regards, > > Branden