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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: mtk.manpages@googlemail.com
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, drepper@redhat.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes [v3]
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:22:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1K2ABK-0002ck-UT@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfd18e0f0805301124o5f217dden10726b268d05d81a@mail.gmail.com> (mtk.manpages@googlemail.com)

> >> Here's a further version of the patch, against 2.6.26rc2, with the
> >> 2008-05-19 git changes you sent me applied.  This patch is based on
> >> the draft patch you sent me.  I've tested this version of the patch,
> >> and it works as for all cases except the one mentioned below.  But
> >> note the following points:
> >>
> >> 1) I didn't make use of the code in notify_change() that checks
> >> IS_IMMUTABLE() and IS_APPEND() (i.e., I did not add
> >> ATTR_OWNER_CHECK to the mask in the controlling if statement).
> >> Doing this can't easily be made to work for the
> >> do_futimes() case without reworking the arguments passed to
> >> notify_change().  Actually, I'm inclined to doubt whether it
> >> is a good idea to try to roll that check into notify_change() --
> >> at least for utimensat() it seems simpler to not do so.
> >
> > Ugh...  Could we just omit this part (the if !times and write error
> > then check owner)?  I know it was my idea, but
> >
> >  a) my ideas are often stupid
> >  b) one patch should ideally do just one thing
> >
> > After we fixed the original issue, we can still think about this other
> > thing :)
> 
> Okay, by now quite a bit of my time has been wasted, and my patience
> is starting to get a little thin.

I understand your frustration, but actually I did say this the last
time as well:

  "Sorry, that was just an idea, but since it's not as simple as it
   should be, I guess we should leave that till later.  My main
   objection was against introducing more is_owner_or_cap() checks.
   Just doing the times == NULL case with ATTR_OWNER_CHECK should be
   fine."

Yeah, I may have been more explicit...

> The relevant interfaces here are:
> 
> utimensat()
> futimesat()
> utime()
> utimes()
> futimens() -- because implemented in glibc via utimensat() with path==NULL.
> 
> * utime() and utimes() can't be affected by this point: they don't use
> file descriptors.

OK, you're right.  I've overlooked this point.

So as long as we believe that nobody is using the futime*() interfaces
in the way you described, which is highly probable, then we can fix
that as well.  Which is actually a nice thing, because it means the
permission checking for the times == NULL case can move from both
do_utimes_name() and do_futimes() into utimes_common().

So let's make two patches, and let's forget about the write_error
thing for now:

1)
  - turn UTIME_NOW/UTIME_NOW into times = NULL
  - for times != NULL set ATTR_OWNER_CHECK

2)
  - move times == NULL permission check into utimes_common.

For 2) you can just use permission() instead of vfs_permission() which
is exactly the same in this case (and consolidated into a common
function later in the vfs-cleanups tree).

OK?

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-30 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-16  8:31 [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes -- version 2 Michael Kerrisk
     [not found] ` <482D4665.4050401-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-16  8:34   ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-16 16:59   ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]     ` <E1Jx3Gw-0002eA-55-8f8m9JG5TPIdUIPVzhDTVZP2KDSNp7ea@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-17 19:57       ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-19  9:50         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-19 10:12           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-19 12:24           ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-19 13:17             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-30 15:34       ` [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes [v3] Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]         ` <48401E7E.9090304-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 16:37           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-30 18:24             ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-30 19:22               ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <E1K2ABK-0002ck-UT-8f8m9JG5TPIdUIPVzhDTVZP2KDSNp7ea@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 19:32                   ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]                     ` <20080530193207.GB28074-6jwH94ZQLHl74goWV3ctuw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 20:08                       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]               ` <cfd18e0f0805301124o5f217dden10726b268d05d81a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 19:43                 ` Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]                   ` <cfd18e0f0805301243h7d862963o8320a2c1f48942ce-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-30 20:17                     ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                       ` <E1K2B2k-0002kS-Cz-8f8m9JG5TPIdUIPVzhDTVZP2KDSNp7ea@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-31  5:28                         ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-30 20:17               ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-31  5:44                 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 11:05         ` Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]           ` <cfd18e0f0806030405u1c32b114pa0fdd979f36f87fb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 11:13             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 11:22               ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 11:27                 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 11:30                   ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                     ` <20080603113018.GA27955-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 11:39                       ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 11:49                         ` Al Viro
     [not found]                           ` <20080603114921.GX28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 11:58                             ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 12:01                           ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                             ` <20080603120135.GA28905-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 12:08                               ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                 ` <20080603120850.GZ28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 12:10                                   ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                 ` <20080603112221.GW28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-03 12:16                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 13:05                     ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 11:52               ` Michael Kerrisk

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