From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Cc: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>,
GNU libc development <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>,
'linux-man' <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 23:11:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUwHr2-l1WADR57b@debian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d213e504-9b2a-1526-ded8-2d283a226b4d@redhat.com>
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On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 04:35:12PM -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On 11/8/23 10:07, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > So we had it in ISO C in C89 and C99, and only in C11 they realized it
> > had to be removed. POSIX hasn't even removed it yet! I won't hesitate
> > to kill a function just because of bureaucracy.
>
> Attempting to get consensus at an international level, across cultural boundaries,
> use cases, workloads, and developer workflows is difficult and not intended to be
> bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy.
Hi Carlos!
I understand that, and respect ISO's work. I just don't think we need,
as GNU or Linux projects, to be restricted to the decisions of ISO. We
can realize that certain functions are bad, and mark them as deprecated
in our scope. If others want to imitate (ISO might even take it as
"prior art"), then great.
Cheers,
Alex
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Carlos.
>
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2023-11-04 11:27 strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated Jonny Grant
2023-11-04 19:33 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-04 21:18 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-05 1:36 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-05 21:16 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-05 23:31 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-07 11:52 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-07 13:23 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-07 14:19 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-07 16:17 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-07 17:00 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-07 17:20 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 6:18 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-11-08 9:51 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 9:59 ` Thorsten Kukuk
2023-11-08 15:09 ` Alejandro Colomar
[not found] ` <6bcad2492ab843019aa63895beaea2ce@DB6PR04MB3255.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
2023-11-08 15:44 ` Thorsten Kukuk
2023-11-08 17:26 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-11-08 14:06 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-11-08 15:07 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 19:45 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-11-08 21:35 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-11-08 22:11 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2023-11-08 23:31 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-09 0:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 10:13 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 11:08 ` catenate vs concatenate (was: strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated) Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 14:06 ` catenate vs concatenate Jonny Grant
2023-11-27 14:33 ` catenate vs concatenate (was: strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated) Zack Weinberg
2023-11-27 15:08 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-27 15:13 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-27 16:59 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-11-27 18:35 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-11-27 23:45 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-11-09 11:13 ` strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 14:05 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 15:04 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 19:04 ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-08 19:40 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 19:58 ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-08 20:13 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 21:07 ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-08 21:50 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 22:17 ` [PATCH] stpncpy.3, string_copying.7: Clarify that st[rp]ncpy() do NOT produce a string Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 23:06 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-08 23:28 ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-09 0:24 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 14:11 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 14:35 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 14:47 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 15:02 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 17:30 ` DJ Delorie
2023-11-09 17:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-11-09 18:00 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 19:42 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 7:23 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-11-09 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] stpncpy.3, string.3, string_copying.7: Clarify that st[rp]ncpy() pad with null bytes Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 5:47 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-11-10 10:47 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 2:12 ` strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated Matthew House
2023-11-08 19:33 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-08 19:40 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 3:13 ` Matthew House
2023-11-09 10:26 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 10:31 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 11:38 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 12:43 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 12:51 ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-11-09 14:01 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 18:11 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-09 23:48 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 5:36 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-10 11:05 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 11:47 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 17:58 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-10 18:36 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 20:19 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 23:44 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-10 19:52 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 22:14 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-11 21:13 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-11 22:20 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-12 9:52 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-12 10:59 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 20:49 ` Paul Eggert
2023-11-12 21:00 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 21:45 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-13 23:46 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-17 21:57 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-18 10:12 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-18 23:03 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-10 11:36 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-10 13:15 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-18 23:40 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-20 11:56 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-20 15:12 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-20 23:08 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-20 23:42 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 11:23 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-09 12:23 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-09 12:35 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-10 7:06 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-11-10 11:18 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-11 7:55 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-11-10 16:06 ` Matthew House
2023-11-10 17:48 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-13 15:01 ` Matthew House
2023-11-11 20:55 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-11 21:15 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-11 22:36 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-11 23:19 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-17 21:46 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-18 9:37 ` PDF book of unreleased pages (was: strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated) Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-19 0:22 ` Deri
2023-11-19 1:19 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-19 9:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-19 16:21 ` Deri
2023-11-19 20:58 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-20 0:46 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-11-20 9:43 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-18 9:44 ` NULL safety " Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-18 23:21 ` NULL safety Jonny Grant
2023-11-24 22:25 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-25 0:57 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-10 10:40 ` strncpy clarify result may not be null terminated Stefan Puiu
2023-11-10 11:06 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-10 11:20 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 9:17 ` [PATCH 0/2] Expand BUGS section of string_copying(7) Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 9:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] string_copying.7: BUGS: *cat(3) functions aren't always bad Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 9:18 ` [PATCH 2/2] string_copying.7: BUGS: Document strl{cpy,cat}(3)'s performance problems Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 11:26 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Improve string_copying(7) Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 11:26 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] string_copying.7: BUGS: *cat(3) functions aren't always bad Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-17 21:43 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-18 0:25 ` Signing all patches and email to this list Matthew House
2023-11-18 23:24 ` Jonny Grant
2023-11-12 11:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] string_copying.7: BUGS: Document strl{cpy,cat}(3)'s performance problems Alejandro Colomar
2023-11-12 11:27 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] strtcpy.3, string_copying.7: Add strtcpy(3) Alejandro Colomar
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