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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Joseph Myers <josmyers@redhat.com>
Cc: Joachim Wuttke <j.wuttke@fz-juelich.de>,
	bug-binutils@gnu.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: elf(5) and ld.so(8): DT_RPATH deprecated - really?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:58:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZialT7CDXzj28K4Q@debian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48c28639-f09d-dab2-10bb-9a6813b28062@redhat.com>

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On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 04:22:13PM +0000, Joseph Myers wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> 
> > Nobody said it would be removed soon.  But it seems people want to
> > remove it "eventually", with that eventually possibly being in a couple
> > of centuries, if computers still exist.
> > 
> > But if you have the intention of using it in new software, or keeping it
> > in existing software, maybe you could give your reasons to those who
> > deprecated it, so that either you convince them of its usefulness, or
> > they convince you of not using it.
> 
> DT_RPATH is just as useful as it always was for testing purposes, when 
> you're building binaries against a sysroot and use -rpath and 
> -dynamic-linker pointing to that sysroot, and you really do want the RPATH 
> used at runtime to find both direct and indirect dependencies and 
> DT_RUNPATH would *not* serve the same purpose (because the sysroot is 
> intended to have exactly the same binaries that would eventually be used 
> in the root filesystem of the target in production, it would not be 
> appropriate to set DT_RUNPATH in any of those binaries).

Hi Joseph!

Then I guess we must undeprecate it.  I'm fine with that, as long as the
maintainers of ld(1) agree.  Joachim, would you mind sending a patch,
and CC binutils?  I'll leave it a week or two to gather reviews, and if
nobody opposes, I'll merge it.  I can also prepare the patch, if you
prefer.

Have a lovely day!
Alex

> 
> -- 
> Joseph S. Myers
> josmyers@redhat.com
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-22 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-19  6:43 elf(5) and ld.so(8): DT_RPATH deprecated - really? Joachim Wuttke
2024-04-22  4:35 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-22 16:22   ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-22 17:58     ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2024-04-22 21:08       ` Joachim Wuttke
2024-04-23  7:53       ` [patch] elf.5 and ld.so.8: undeprecate DT_RPATH; explain DT_RPATH vs DT_RUNPATH Joachim Wuttke
2024-05-07 13:12         ` Alejandro Colomar

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