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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca>,
	"G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Heinrich Schuchardt <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com>,
	Adam Dobes <adobes@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: SPDX license review requests
Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 01:03:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7ed2025-b896-bbce-f36b-0a681f38c542@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd1a81d0-456a-bc19-7df0-fdbcc2a51395@gmail.com>


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[Minor self corrections.]

On 5/26/23 00:56, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> Hi list!
> 
> We've got 4 derivatives of the "VERBATIM" (now one of them in SPDX
> as Linux-man-pages-copyleft") license.  I'll paste here the four.
> 
> ===========
> 
> $ cat LICENSES/Linux-man-pages-copyleft.txt 
> Copyright (c) <year> <owner> All rights reserved.
> 
> Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this
> manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are
> preserved on all copies.
> 
> Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of
> this manual under the conditions for verbatim copying, provided that
> the entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of
> a permission notice identical to this one.
> 
> Since the Linux kernel and libraries are constantly changing, this
> manual page may be incorrect or out-of-date.  The author(s) assume
> no responsibility for errors or omissions, or for damages resulting
> from the use of the information contained herein.  The author(s) may
> not have taken the same level of care in the production of this
> manual, which is licensed free of charge, as they might when working
> professionally.
> 
> Formatted or processed versions of this manual, if unaccompanied by
> the source, must acknowledge the copyright and authors of this work.
> 
> ===========
> 
> $ head -n21 man2/set_mempolicy.2
> .\" Copyright 2003,2004 Andi Kleen, SuSE Labs.
> .\" and Copyright 2007 Lee Schermerhorn, Hewlett Packard
> .\"
> .\" %%%LICENSE_START(VERBATIM_PROF)
> .\" Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this
> .\" manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are
> .\" preserved on all copies.
> .\"
> .\" Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of this
> .\" manual under the conditions for verbatim copying, provided that the
> .\" entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of a
> .\" permission notice identical to this one.
> .\"
> .\" Since the Linux kernel and libraries are constantly changing, this
> .\" manual page may be incorrect or out-of-date.  The author(s) assume no
> .\" responsibility for errors or omissions, or for damages resulting from
> .\" the use of the information contained herein.
> .\"
> .\" Formatted or processed versions of this manual, if unaccompanied by
> .\" the source, must acknowledge the copyright and authors of this work.
> .\" %%%LICENSE_END
> 
> ===========
> 
> $ head -n8 man2/getcpu.2
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 2006 Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>.
> .\"
> .\" %%%LICENSE_START(VERBATIM_ONE_PARA)
> .\" Permission is granted to distribute possibly modified copies
> .\" of this page provided the header is included verbatim,
> .\" and in case of nontrivial modification author and date
> .\" of the modification is added to the header.
> .\" %%%LICENSE_END
> 
> ===========
> 
> $ head -n13 man2/move_pages.2
> .\" This manpage is Copyright (C) 2006 Silicon Graphics, Inc.
> .\"                               Christoph Lameter
> .\"
> .\" %%%LICENSE_START(VERBATIM_TWO_PARA)
> .\" Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this
> .\" manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are
> .\" preserved on all copies.
> .\"
> .\" Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of this
> .\" manual under the conditions for verbatim copying, provided that the
> .\" entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of a
> .\" permission notice identical to this one.
> .\" %%%LICENSE_END
> 
> ===========
> 
> And here go the copyright holders:

of _TWO_PARA and _ONE_PARA, which are the main ones I want to get rid of.
_TWO_PARA seems to be non-free according to Fedora (and they seem right).

> 
> $ grep -rl VERBATIM man* \
> | xargs grep -L 'VERBATIM_PROF' \
> | xargs grep -hi -e copyright -e '(c)' \
> | sort \
> | uniq;
> .\" Copyright (C) 2008-2014, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
> .\" Copyright 2009 Intel Corporation
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 1998 Alan Cox.
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 1998 Heiner Eisen.
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 1998 Pawel Krawczyk.
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 1999 Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 1999 Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>.
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 1999 Claus Fischer.
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 1999 Matthew Wilcox <willy@bofh.ai>.
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 2000 Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>.
> .\" This man page is Copyright (C) 2006 Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>.
> .\" This manpage is Copyright (C) 2006 Silicon Graphics, Inc.
> .\" and Copyright (C) 2008 Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
> .\" and Copyright (C) 2016, Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
> .\" and copyright (c) 1999 Matthew Wilcox.
> .\" manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are
> 
> I CCd the ones for which I know their email.
> 
> ===========
> 
> Here goes some comments about them:
> 
> The one and two paragraph licenses are almost identical to the usual
> one.  There seems to be a small diference regarding translations in
> the 2-paragraph one, being more restrictive.  Was that intentional?
> Or maybe it was just an accident, and there was no intention of
> disallowing translations?
> 
> Would you please relicense to either Linux-man-pages-copyleft or
> VERBATIM_PROF?
> 
> 
> Also, Linux-man-pages-copyleft seems to contain a sentence that
> makes it differ from VERBATIM_PROF:
> 
> """
>   The author(s) may
> not have taken the same level of care in the production of this
> manual, which is licensed free of charge, as they might when working
> professionally.
> """
> 
> I believe the quality of non-professional code and manuals to be
> at least as high as the professional one.  We have more freedom to
> reject crap.  I propose also deprecating Linux-man-pages-copyleft
> and moving to VERBATIM_PROF as the single surviving license from
> all four variants.
> 
> We're also discussing the names that each of these four should be
> given in SPDX.
> 
> 
> I suggest (in order of appearance in this email):

Of course, I messed the order, but luckily I included the old names
so it's clear.

> 
> -  Linux-man-pages-copyleft to be renamed to the following, and
>    mark it as a deprecated license.
> 
> 	Linux-man-pages-copyleft-nopro
> 	Linux man-pages Copyleft (non-professional)
> 
> -  VERBATIM_PROF to be SPDX'd as:
> 
> 	Linux-man-pages-copyleft-qual
> 	Linux man-pages Copyleft (high quality)
> 
> -  VERBATIM_TWO_PARA to be SPDX'd as:

and mark it as a deprecated license.

> 
> 	Linux-man-pages-copyleft-notrans
> 	Linux man-pages Copyleft (no translations)
> 
> -  VERBATIM_ONE_PARA to be SPDX'd as:

and mark it as a deprecated license.

> 
> 	Linux-man-pages-copyleft-verbatim
> 	Linux man-pages Copyleft (verbatim)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Alex
> 
> 
> On 5/18/23 14:38, Adam Dobes wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have recently begun converting license names of licenses found in
>> Fedora's man-pages package to SPDX. Several of these licenses did not
>> have corresponding license identifier in SPDX. Because of this I have
>> submitted several license review requests for these licenses on SPDX
>> Github (links listed below). If you have any further comments
>> regarding these requests, please feel free to add them.
>>
>> One of these licenses, LDP-1 (found in man5/dir_colors.5), was
>> unfortunately determined to be not-allowed in Fedora, so I'd like to
>> ask if it's possible to change the license of this man page so that it
>> can be included in Fedora.
>>
>> Links to the issues mentioned above:
>> https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/issues/1947
>> https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/issues/1955
>> https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/issues/1957
>> https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/issues/1959
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adam
>>
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-25 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-18 12:38 SPDX license review requests Adam Dobes
2023-05-25 22:56 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-05-25 23:03   ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2023-05-26 11:46     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-05-30 12:47       ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]         ` <eda85fda-6182-fc13-3943-9084b187433e@gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <CAK719L2PjTr=-c_AEi89TVrJV7DHwyfBJjH6z6Bozc0Rk+rOfQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-06-29 16:01             ` Lameter, Christopher
2023-06-29 17:01               ` Brian Inglis
2023-07-08 16:44                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-07-08 20:14                   ` Joey Schulze
2023-07-15 13:50                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-07-15 19:04                       ` Joey Schulze
2023-07-16  1:11                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-09-25 23:08               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-05-26 11:58   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-05-26 12:00     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-05-26 13:15   ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-05-26 14:10     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-05-26 14:37       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-05-26 23:17         ` Alejandro Colomar

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