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Branden Robinson" Cc: Seth McDonald , linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 01/12] man/man2const/F_DUPFD.2const: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of F_DUPFD(2const) Message-ID: References: <24e850c16b1a16da197c3e86ec756a7f585ef732.1767599119.git.sethmcmail@pm.me> <2ebaafd230336d02405815949315e1b0bdf2685f.1767599119.git.sethmcmail@pm.me> <318b6e1e5d8a89b28ecfafc42794efd8a8ef32d4.1767599119.git.sethmcmail@pm.me> <20260105153227.6tm44wrjaonclphz@illithid> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tbxfwmyefcivctne" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260105153227.6tm44wrjaonclphz@illithid> --tbxfwmyefcivctne Content-Type: text/plain; protected-headers=v1; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Alejandro Colomar To: "G. Branden Robinson" Cc: Seth McDonald , linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 01/12] man/man2const/F_DUPFD.2const: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of F_DUPFD(2const) Message-ID: References: <24e850c16b1a16da197c3e86ec756a7f585ef732.1767599119.git.sethmcmail@pm.me> <2ebaafd230336d02405815949315e1b0bdf2685f.1767599119.git.sethmcmail@pm.me> <318b6e1e5d8a89b28ecfafc42794efd8a8ef32d4.1767599119.git.sethmcmail@pm.me> <20260105153227.6tm44wrjaonclphz@illithid> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20260105153227.6tm44wrjaonclphz@illithid> Hi Branden, On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 09:32:27AM -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2026-01-05T19:18:39+1000, Seth McDonald wrote: > > F_GETFL(2const) and F_SETFL(2const) first appeared in POSIX.1-1988.[1] > > -SVr4, 4.3BSD, POSIX.1-2001. > > +SVr4, > > +4.3BSD, > > +POSIX.1-1988. >=20 > What ordering is used for these? Ideally, I would like it to be in chronologic order. > 4.3BSD was 1986.[1] >=20 > POSIX.1-1988 was, nominally, 1988 but we all know how standards > sometimes lag. It seems the record is murky in this case.[2] >=20 > I've seen dates of 1988 applied SVr4, but no reports that it was > publicly available until 1989.[3] If anyone wants to do research and improve those --as Seth is doing--, I'll welcome patches. :) Have a lovely New Year! Alex >=20 > Regards, > Branden >=20 > [1] https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/opensources/book/kirkmck.html > [2] https://luplab.cs.ucdavis.edu/2021/11/04/the-hunt-for-posix-1-1988.ht= ml > [3] http://ps-2.retropc.se/sites/unixarchive/Documentation/AUUGN/AUUGN-V0= 9.6.pdf --=20 --tbxfwmyefcivctne Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEES7Jt9u9GbmlWADAi64mZXMKQwqkFAmlb3FoACgkQ64mZXMKQ wqnzuxAAq1LaUzu+4brwyMZCUovj8Auw58JL9mib1OEcUYEOurx6pu//yxoWQyt0 d/9xpdGI1Nzzsc7gEikBwFNj/XKAunl0baOIukUiETM4P3/6R0XRVmGfPDRInzEH dY8iIARBGixF6ZDm3w/4PvRDGhFwXVM8KypC+a0HMXiQpWTkNnXeEILUligMXJLM zcKkaIc9lXI/QH3uiNqakN8350OAjZWT0KnYWz+agpmk0bfv8YKpJYulH3YvXSuD aFPQDAxnG9+7g39WxZSqKuUSSJ3t4VVSusmUajSQRMdivBnig5S2w0IepIH7Fe9A BxBvZ9l3wi6NB7NGduG5mZS8ZaRhMIlmOjeNozAW/uEaRqIXfgf18o3tXwvPKEih yfMWl+VeH3yuSJvAgGj6ck4ayDTOvJtKrUw5lXo24tLw7/eu3w/Jt1nNlZDosF3X f9SzIALtj1Uq6ksat/v7v1bi97SvpUL+gezjJCiRQpsE/xOQFDE4YtfxlHxwUxwO CcX0XXktLKTW0wGLLE8AnlVSs8xT6abw/KJ6WU5FAQWXD0TGo/2U7nqtXQwnGKjI Qq8pZ/sc2b2368qVycfrqOfGGBTvJ0rLvUr5Xj28UcPJByZQiZv/2ryW/OdnDacm YJewKfLRIokzX417roAsc+aplKuw2llj5z9iX3cahEMcIS9TQIc= =f9yI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tbxfwmyefcivctne--