From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42D1A33A71B for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768045460; cv=none; b=DDGMih1qhgZ+r7ZtZRiYFmoQTcfiIHoKpPlLw/7313nzOLiiBR+GaBjbNI9oLeh0GrtUuevuhm4GYVUk0XggrwwY8v0q2cXqdWqtFSAlHtb+/fyAsyZGOZdM0z/G7k/V0hiCqAqlfzr6ldk3YpdbAfmIMf4AQoekF+5dSn4ciNg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768045460; c=relaxed/simple; bh=RK0kaXH946joA31HJoo8Bkcy4J+mhvrIEiIV6ullE/A=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=slbkuKjCYtaekE0+2xrL1oSaXcvtamzvv1YQnDnhwlKQynWK0fWRyTtkr1PzJZlPDG6lAZBSU/v8Jh6n+0RmoPS4p2RwvFnmCeT5TC/CgTzvA2/4cDjXhwTy6Uhz3yaNRJDw3tk2NgtNM8bLZn6AclEzrE1DysvS9T3DpG7ErEo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=p5aI8/ca; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="p5aI8/ca" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F76AC4CEF1; Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:44:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1768045459; bh=RK0kaXH946joA31HJoo8Bkcy4J+mhvrIEiIV6ullE/A=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=p5aI8/cah3DaNSAcQpCI037nw1AWTX0ygVW5sH+vTZyK8HT7nmwEgw4fH4v+GQf/k PRfwlxanEd0QobggYQ+gSgr8ARvMt0DGwYio07tmIAGs2zJv1EKCSTvgbh9iuKPS1h InhtvSvRVgYRNxPWa5aMNRf/f2V0uUutap4ooF8u9nWvHlBGlAkrmo5/AvdmaAu92p w45N5xkVMMWRDei2jmBvOI/ZjmlIcY3eYiNTMWBQKYbkuW6zfRFc2h1NoJmFq5TKlN W3PcQ0h1VaxfmvuqCmWeBjHEpa+g7vWV/yXM5ef9G8H/mblhztZHRblKm07+Ssk76w MtpCQUMmbDgaw== Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 12:44:16 +0100 From: Alejandro Colomar To: Seth McDonald Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 21/25] man/man3type/wchar_t.3type: HISTORY: Update first SUS appearance of wchar_t(3type) Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oca6x4ph7lpm7xp6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: --oca6x4ph7lpm7xp6 Content-Type: text/plain; protected-headers=v1; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Alejandro Colomar To: Seth McDonald Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 21/25] man/man3type/wchar_t.3type: HISTORY: Update first SUS appearance of wchar_t(3type) Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Hi Seth, On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 09:08:49AM +0000, Seth McDonald wrote: > Hi Alex, >=20 > On Friday, 9 January 2026 at 20:37, Alejandro Colomar wr= ote: > > Hi Seth, > [...] > > I've recently learned that wchar_t and related APIs were introduced to > > ISO C in C95. If you are interested in them, you could check the C95 > > draft (there's a link in standards(7) --I added it a few weeks ago--). > > Otherwise, I'll have a look at it myself. Let me know. >=20 > I can include this in later patches, as long as citing the draft is > sufficient justification. I personally tend to have a more 'final > standard only' mindset, but if you're okay with the draft, then I'm > all good to use it. For ISO C, unless you have the money to pay for the standard documents (usually, this is only done by companies that need certification), the drafts are the only available thing. The actual standards are behing a paywall, and most people never see one. I have never seen an ISO C standard (and I'm member of the C Committee). The C Committee publishes drafts of what will become the standard, and usually, it's enough to consult the draft that's closest to the standard. See also: For C95, the draft n412 is, as far as I understand, identical to the standard (except for the ISO cover sheet, etc.). Draft n412 was an early draft for C99 published around the publication of C95, and even in the SUMMARY of the draft, it states that "This document represents C90 with Technical Corrigendum 1 and Amendment 1 applied". See . For C23, for example, the draft n3220 is identical to C23 except for one typo in C23 that was fixed in n3220. (n3220 is the first draft of C2y). In other versions of ISO C, drafts may differ more from the actual standard. >=20 > For the 3type section I've already covered, it'd probably be easier if > you could patch up the few types that first appeared in C95. I'd rather > not keep going back to refine previous patches, as I've found (from > general experience) this mindset tends to cause me to *constantly* find > new ways to polish what I've already done, preventing me from making > much progress. Yes, I'm taking your patches as they already improve the pages. I was mentioning this in case you want to write patches in the future that also document C95. FWIW, I've applied the patches already. Cheers, Alex >=20 > ---- > Seth McDonald. > sethmcmail at pm dot me (mailing lists) > 2336 E8D2 FEB1 5300 692C=C2=A0 62A9 5839 6AD8 9243 D369 --=20 --oca6x4ph7lpm7xp6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEES7Jt9u9GbmlWADAi64mZXMKQwqkFAmliO4oACgkQ64mZXMKQ wqkV2BAAuf8G/xdvPtXNtLxmtxOBljv18mmtjNEM/t3Grs/hYqqciUH9FwzyaNCF qdP0xvJ+3boZe/sqq53Ul0FPyTxGxTSqrTOMDUTXZErpeIr9wZ6oHk1f2el7XHp/ Gn0kT88Z+XQoy5+vSFEqCEsrmfBYz2XaB3Nu13K9iM1OOBeLRQ56Qe6di7juVMom W6h4Mk1jbA/77arRMVRfZaW8qH1e/7yv8jnt0f8FOACQBMkgvTAowpEZrTi6v+YL GsngzgFY/jH7bxlQm0dF9CWkvPAvM7gH6AgSlusjHF4ocx/2GEnG7IhS7OrjcC9f MPDGFG0fUCWyj89cv1nlLpZ0iRzyFG7WrjDbdQ8oPQ5TyTk9ZIcHpzUkxUUpkBok 7RstQ0Mh9P/GbKRo2rMPNiTEOudwyYWtYnO2kix+weomn87VBZE0o/ocd9wAGxi8 OCUC/RLHeN7U+VSgo23CdzBpXF/2l9FYD5G7H3I9VB0kX3n7jIOomi4RmdXmju8b dDIHrxaCDwX4JteQLdUNUr/tvfMG3HqsabuBniUdc/ef5ysMVqGo0ZGkwwyYvE9r YRYnKjCvu1h/mb6ip12LzCmWJyokjrOW2cb7SxohzKvXzwq48oGEj1sL7ub/LZ4Q R7tqPgDEzcf9CLxrV4UIhLYVNVfL6F0/HgM1/ldujJIUAu8yuuU= =/GR3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oca6x4ph7lpm7xp6--