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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Seth McDonald <sethmcmail@pm.me>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 01/23] man/man2/clock_getres.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of clock_* syscalls
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 01:41:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXFwqEqGsAU9FwfD@devuan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXFwMamVRAdu-NuR@McDaDebianPC>

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Hi Seth,

On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 12:32:55AM +0000, Seth McDonald wrote:
> Hi Alex,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 04:49:25PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > Hi Seth,
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 12:06:57PM +0000, Seth McDonald wrote:
> > > clock_getres(2), clock_gettime(2), and clock_settime(2) first appeared
> > > in POSIX.1-1996.[1]  SUSv2 incorporates POSIX.1-1996, so listing both is
> > > redundant.
> > 
> > Are you sure SUSv2 incorporates POSIX.1-1996?  Could you please show
> > sources for that?
> 
> We can reference the following SUSv2 PDF:
> CAE Specification, System Interfaces and Headers, Issue 5.
> <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009639399/toc.pdf>
> 
> Section 1.6 "Relationship to Formal Standards", page 11 states:
> 
> 	Great care has been taken to ensure that this specification is
> 	fully aligned with the following formal standards:
> 	- ISO/IEC 9945-1:1996
> 	- ISO/IEC 9945-2:1993
> 	- ISO/IEC 9899:1990
> 	- ISO/IEC 9899:1990/Amendment 1:1994 (E) (MSE)
> 	- Federal Information Procurement Standards (FIPS) 151-2.
> 
> 	Any conflict between this specification and any of these
> 	standards is unintentional.
> 
> Additionally, section 1.7 "Portability", page 12 states:
> 
> 	This document describes a superset of the requirements of the
> 	ISO POSIX-1 standard and the ISO C standard. [...] (The ISO
> 	POSIX-1 standard is identical to IEEE Std 1003.1-1996, which is
> 	often referred to as the POSIX.1 standard. [...])
> 
> For context, page xiii defines "ISO C" as ISO/IEC 9899:1990 including
> Technical Corrigendum 1:1994 and Amendment 1:1994.  And "ISO POSIX-1" as
> ISO/IEC 9945-1:1996.
> 
> So SUSv2 XSH is a superset of POSIX.1-1996 and C95.

Thanks!  And then I guess POSIX.1-1996 would also be based on C95.
This is quite interesting!


Have a lovely night!
Alex

> 
> -- 
> Take care,
> 	Seth McDonald.
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-22  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-21 12:06 [PATCH v1 00/23] man/man2/*: Update history of syscalls CI-G Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:06 ` [PATCH v1 01/23] man/man2/clock_getres.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of clock_* syscalls Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 15:49   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-22  0:32     ` Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  0:41       ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 02/23] man/man2/close.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of close(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 03/23] man/man2/dup.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of dup[2](2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 04/23] man/man2/execve.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of execve(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 05/23] man/man2/_exit.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of _exit(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 06/23] man/man2/fcntl.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of fcntl(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 07/23] man/man2/fcntl_locking.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of locking constants Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 08/23] man/man2/fork.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of fork(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 09/23] man/man2/fsync.2: HISTORY: Split fsync(2) and fdatasync(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 10/23] man/man2/fsync.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of fsync(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 11/23] man/man2/fsync.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of fdatasync(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 12/23] man/man2/get[gu]id.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of get[e][gu]id(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 13/23] man/man2/getgroups.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of getgroups(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:07 ` [PATCH v1 14/23] man/man2/gethostname.2: HISTORY: Split gethostname(2) and sethostname(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 15/23] man/man2/getitimer.2: HISTORY: Update first SUS appearance of [gs]etitimer(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 16/23] man/man2/getpagesize.2: HISTORY: Update first SUS appearance of getpagesize(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 17/23] man/man2/getpid.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of get[p]pid(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 18/23] man/man2/getpriority.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of [gs]etpriority(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 19/23] man/man2/getresuid.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of getres[gu]id(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 20/23] man/man2/getrlimit.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of [gs]etrlimit(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 21/23] man/man2/getsid.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of getsid(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 22/23] man/man2/getrusage.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of getrusage(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 23/23] man/man2/gettimeofday.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of gettimeofday(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-21 15:46 ` [PATCH v1 00/23] man/man2/*: Update history of syscalls CI-G Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-22  2:24 ` [PATCH v2 " Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:24   ` [PATCH v2 01/23] man/man2/clock_getres.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of clock_* syscalls Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  3:37     ` Mark Harris
2026-01-23 15:38       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 15:54         ` Mark Harris
2026-01-24  4:52         ` Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:24   ` [PATCH v2 02/23] man/man2/close.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of close(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:24   ` [PATCH v2 03/23] man/man2/dup.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of dup[2](2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:24   ` [PATCH v2 04/23] man/man2/execve.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of execve(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:24   ` [PATCH v2 05/23] man/man2/_exit.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of _exit(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:24   ` [PATCH v2 06/23] man/man2/fcntl.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of fcntl(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:24   ` [PATCH v2 07/23] man/man2/fcntl_locking.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of locking constants Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:24   ` [PATCH v2 08/23] man/man2/fork.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of fork(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 09/23] man/man2/fsync.2: HISTORY: Split fsync(2) and fdatasync(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 10/23] man/man2/fsync.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of fsync(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 11/23] man/man2/fsync.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of fdatasync(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 12/23] man/man2/get[gu]id.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of get[e][gu]id(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 13/23] man/man2/getgroups.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of getgroups(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 14/23] man/man2/gethostname.2: HISTORY: Split gethostname(2) and sethostname(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 15/23] man/man2/getitimer.2: HISTORY: Update first SUS appearance of [gs]etitimer(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 16/23] man/man2/getpagesize.2: HISTORY: Update first SUS appearance of getpagesize(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 17/23] man/man2/getpid.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of get[p]pid(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 18/23] man/man2/getpriority.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of [gs]etpriority(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 19/23] man/man2/getresuid.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of getres[gu]id(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-23 15:59     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 20/23] man/man2/getrlimit.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of [gs]etrlimit(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:25   ` [PATCH v2 21/23] man/man2/getsid.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of getsid(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:26   ` [PATCH v2 22/23] man/man2/getrusage.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of getrusage(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-22  2:26   ` [PATCH v2 23/23] man/man2/gettimeofday.2: HISTORY: Update first POSIX appearance of gettimeofday(2) Seth McDonald
2026-01-23 16:07   ` [PATCH v2 00/23] man/man2/*: Update history of syscalls CI-G Alejandro Colomar

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