From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Should aiocb(3type) say something about the order of fields?
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2026 13:33:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZBreHEOOKWUGWVN@devuan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aZBoYIj4D_jcMjDO@devuan>
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On 2026-02-14T13:30:05+0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> On 2026-02-14T11:51:36+0000, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> > https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/aiocb.3type.html doesn't tell
> > you that the order shown there is not the real order used on linux.
>
> Hmmm, this was explained in system_data_types(7). When the page was
> split into many, that information remained there (and I still have
> pending the move of the remaining two types in that page).
>
> That page says:
> The structures described in this manual page shall contain, at
> least, the members shown in their definition, in no particular or‐
> der.
>
> My intention was (and still is) to move that page to intro(3type), and
> keep system_data_types as a link page to intro(3type).
>
> > It
> > does tell you to look at aio(7), which says:
> >
> > struct aiocb {
> > /* The order of these fields is implementation-dependent */
>
> How about '/* members in no particular order */'?
>
> > ...
> > /* Various implementation-internal fields not shown */
>
> I'd replace the second comment by '/* ... */'
How about this?
$ diffman-git
--- HEAD:man/man3type/aiocb.3type
+++ ./man/man3type/aiocb.3type
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@ SYNOPSIS
#include <aio.h>
struct aiocb {
+ /* members in no particular order */
int aio_fildes; /* File descriptor */
off_t aio_offset; /* File offset */
volatile void *aio_buf; /* Location of buffer */
@@ -17,6 +18,7 @@ SYNOPSIS
int aio_reqprio; /* Request priority offset */
struct sigevent aio_sigevent; /* Signal number and value */
int aio_lio_opcode; /* Operation to be performed */
+ /* ... */
};
DESCRIPTION
>
> > };
> >
> > I think it would be helpful to repeat that in aiocb(3type) so you
> > don't need to go to a second page to get that info. If aiocb(3type)
> > shows actual C code with a struct definition it's reasonable to assume
> > that it is accurate, which isn't the case here. The comments in the
> > aio(7) page make that clearer.
> >
> > The Glibc manual
> > <https://sourceware.org/glibc/manual/latest/html_node/Asynchronous-I_002fO.html>
> > just names the fields (not showing an actual struct definition) and
> > doesn't imply anything about the order.
>
> I prefer the actual struct definition. I think it's more readable.
>
>
> Have a lovely day!
> Alex
>
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2026-02-14 11:51 Should aiocb(3type) say something about the order of fields? Jonathan Wakely
2026-02-14 12:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
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