From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEEEC1E531 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2026 11:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784460100; cv=none; b=sVcMdwIft+upfAWEhNKxElXzztU28rvGqcIp5cfsCRMKfXJdhQV2duAgE91UTfl6YC1N2atrMhMcEvoK+Fh/Ag+Dz0/TeEVJC++DVI/EWAVJ5sDnWjgEzp1Qfgmlke3w/PQyWAhX6QPRi+vBzZQYoRJyEJYYbiifJyCugrVXtl4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784460100; c=relaxed/simple; bh=hO1JLX+4yS8u3lGJwdWbCU5bbyJiky4U+R0AsUfBlPI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=sI3aav1sFSlOZTKzwXxkra+ayB4RLmZO7nx3D/h50ShhmXt7XGfXgVrfw9/qZwGzOTUXc1Zz13kon7xhvL9yTd3qK2unQvBwysbGc6B9ZNJOwoPVayc/BggwOWOhBEZKPBoJUR7FbvcE6d8fFHtbLZCQfOwuxjvnjQdhsAhr+gU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=aJ5iU0U0; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="aJ5iU0U0" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81CEB1F000E9; Sun, 19 Jul 2026 11:21:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1784460099; bh=a9o7DfkvZ4UV+iYDr7iOZsl+yvhE9zbKpDHf65BZVpc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=aJ5iU0U05Y4QvNPvob39IN5wOsVsABMtN1+w8rObggOneScQeqPEmMjHPKFOHifUp qn296w9JUb/lXnPIKVXENgu4/4McWUEbKdDcaSdB97EcwMEvoYmp8Cr1pK2JwUs/Vt /xDpG7MmK0Gnjwn5Yf8jIzCtXesYyRKHHsIskIZ7QOHPYRDE0vz1JA43XfF9lwfvCy H8wM1fq9TV+bqVSf4MGfrtyEfP0esMFywAt+tB2PSmPrqPAzw62MFXEO95tJM1DqKr catcETVPjII2jHoa/QUT6+VKvtWwMZ0F2SzRes1puGKJbUcHDhGQ38wQpDcXCALTV7 iCDhHmaFnajBg== Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:21:35 +0200 From: Alejandro Colomar To: Arsen =?utf-8?Q?Arsenovi=C4=87?= Cc: coreutils@gnu.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ls/dir/vdir(1) Message-ID: References: <86qzkzpaof.fsf@aarsen.me> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nkvowf3w2pgvvkrr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86qzkzpaof.fsf@aarsen.me> --nkvowf3w2pgvvkrr Content-Type: text/plain; protected-headers=v1; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Alejandro Colomar To: Arsen =?utf-8?Q?Arsenovi=C4=87?= Cc: coreutils@gnu.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ls/dir/vdir(1) Message-ID: References: <86qzkzpaof.fsf@aarsen.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86qzkzpaof.fsf@aarsen.me> Hi Arsen, On 2026-07-19T11:53:52+0200, Arsen Arsenovi=C4=87 wrote: > Alejandro Colomar writes: >=20 > > [[PGP Signed Part:No public key for EB89995CC290C2A9 created at 2026-07= -18T17:42:18+0200 using RSA]] > > Hi, > > > > I have some doubts about specific pages; let's start with ls/dir/vdir. > > > > Experimentally, ls(1) and dir(1) seem to be exactly the same. I'd like > > to document dir(1) with a short page saying that it's equivalent to > > ls(1). Is this correct, or is there any subtle difference? >=20 > Quoting the documentation: >=20 >=20 > > 10.2 =E2=80=98dir=E2=80=99: Briefly list directory contents > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >=20 > > =E2=80=98dir=E2=80=99 is equivalent to =E2=80=98ls -C -b=E2=80=99; that= is, by default files are > > listed in columns, sorted vertically, and special characters are > > represented by backslash escape sequences. > >=20 > > *Note =E2=80=98ls=E2=80=99: ls invocation. >=20 > > 10.3 =E2=80=98vdir=E2=80=99: Verbosely list directory contents > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >=20 > > =E2=80=98vdir=E2=80=99 is equivalent to =E2=80=98ls -l -b=E2=80=99; tha= t is, by default files are > > listed in long format and special characters are represented by > > backslash escape sequences. > >=20 > > *Note =E2=80=98ls=E2=80=99: ls invocation. Thanks! I've changed the descriptions of these two programs to the following short and simple descriptions: DESCRIPTION vdir is equivalent to ls -l -b. DESCRIPTION dir is equivalent to ls -C -b. Have a lovely day! 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