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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-man@kernel.org>
To: Christopher Bazley <chris.bazley.wg14@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	 Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	 "Joseph S. Myers" <josmyers@redhat.com>,
	Martin Uecker <uecker@tugraz.at>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] man/: SYNOPSIS: Remove GNU forward-declarations of parameters for lengths of array parameters
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2026 14:11:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <attOh6Rt65MavbuK@debian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <atpnWiYQzs_HZ1Q7@debian>

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> Date: 2026-10-22 21:54:09+0200
> From: Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-man@kernel.org>
>
> > Date: 2026-10-22 18:29:31+0100
> > From: Christopher Bazley <chris.bazley.wg14@gmail.com>
> >
[...]
> > but the fact that there are no useful ISO C
> > semantics for parameters of pointer type declared using array syntax
> > weakens my concern. (If the parameters actually had variably-modified types
> > then the change would be far worse, from my point of view, because the
> > parameter types would no longer be expressed correctly.)
> 
> We don't care about what ISO C says.  GNU C clearly assigns semantics to
> array parameters, and that means we have to be careful about them here.
> If this can result in sanitizers breaking code, it is something to be
> careful about.  Moreover, I hope ISO C eventually catches up.

Moreover, there's GCC discussing at the moment a patch of mine to have
_Countof(parameter) work, which would be an even larger risk: it would
produce different values in code, and not just sanitizers aborting some
program.


Have a lovely day!
Alex

-- 
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-23 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-22 16:44 [PATCH] man/: SYNOPSIS: Remove GNU forward-declarations of parameters for lengths of array parameters Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-22 17:11 ` Martin Uecker
2026-10-22 20:01   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-22 20:27     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-22 17:37 ` Christopher Bazley
     [not found] ` <CAEHU8x9jET+vcrR0NpDz6t57egQG8TZqx5XtV52srH9ZRvdxSQ@mail.gmail.com>
2026-10-22 19:54   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-23 11:53     ` Michael Kerrisk (man7.org)
2026-10-23 12:42       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-23 15:51       ` Christopher Bazley
2026-10-24 12:45         ` Michael Kerrisk (man7.org)
2026-10-24 13:38           ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-24 16:16             ` Christopher Bazley
2026-10-24 16:37               ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-24 18:11                 ` Martin Uecker
2026-10-25  6:59                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-25  7:22                     ` Martin Uecker
2026-10-25  7:38                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-25  8:29                         ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-10-25  8:40                         ` Martin Uecker
2026-10-25  8:57                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-25  9:05                             ` Martin Uecker
2026-10-23 12:11     ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2026-10-22 22:03 ` Mark Harris
2026-10-23  9:43   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-23 19:32     ` Mark Harris
2026-10-23 20:06       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-24  7:53   ` Martin Uecker

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