* [Bug 216667] New: Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set
@ 2022-11-06 3:04 bugzilla-daemon
2023-05-19 2:11 ` [Bug 216667] " bugzilla-daemon
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From: bugzilla-daemon @ 2022-11-06 3:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-man
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216667
Bug ID: 216667
Summary: Self-contradictory description of inheritable
capability set
Product: Documentation
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P1
Component: man-pages
Assignee: documentation_man-pages@kernel-bugs.osdl.org
Reporter: robryk@gmail.com
Regression: No
man capabilities says about the inheritable capset of a process:
> This is a set of capabilities preserved across an execve(2). Inheritable
> capabilities remain inheritable when executing any program, (...)
I understand this to mean that any capability in the inheritable set will stay
inheritable across an execve (i.e. the inheritable set will not shrink across
execve).
The same manpage says in the next paragraph:
> Because inheritable capabilities are not generally preserved across execve(2)
> when running as a non-root user (...)
This seems to say the exact opposite of how I read the previous paragraph.
I am probably misunderstanding something basic here, but I am unlikely to be
the only person who does so, so I think it bears making this part clearer.
(When I try to look at the rest of the manpage to get more clarity, I fail:
- the section that describes capability transformations across execve() seems
to say that inheritable capset stays constant,
- the description of ambient capabilities implies that inheritable
capabilities differ from ambient insofar ambient ones are more "durable" across
execve().)
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* [Bug 216667] Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set 2022-11-06 3:04 [Bug 216667] New: Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-19 2:11 ` bugzilla-daemon 2023-05-19 2:28 ` bugzilla-daemon ` (3 subsequent siblings) 4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-19 2:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-man https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216667 Monthero Ronald (rhmcruiser@gmail.com) changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rhmcruiser@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Monthero Ronald (rhmcruiser@gmail.com) --- It's to make a distinction between a root user and non root user for the process. The first part of the paragraph below is for root user and the later part is for execve run as non root user. And on other hand applications ( using execve) that run with few elevated capability flags can use ambient capabilities. The statement you quoted from man page - Inheritable section below: --- Inheritable This is a set of capabilities preserved across an execve(2). Inheritable capabilities remain inheritable when executing any program, and inheritable capabilities are added to the permitted set when executing a program that has the correspond‐ ing bits set in the file inheritable set. Because inheritable capabilities are not generally preserved across execve(2) when running as a non-root user, applications that wish to run helper programs with elevated capabilities should consider using ambient capabilities, described below. --- -- You may reply to this email to add a comment. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [Bug 216667] Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set 2022-11-06 3:04 [Bug 216667] New: Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set bugzilla-daemon 2023-05-19 2:11 ` [Bug 216667] " bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-19 2:28 ` bugzilla-daemon 2023-05-19 13:26 ` bugzilla-daemon ` (2 subsequent siblings) 4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-19 2:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-man https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216667 --- Comment #2 from Monthero Ronald (rhmcruiser@gmail.com) --- If curious you can also check the process capabilities set and decode their capabilities set flags for - permitted, inherited and ambient as below. The capabilities set can differ based on process , user and privileges Example: test$ ps alx | grep docker 4 0 2068 1 20 0 1834532 76808 - Ssl ? 0:16 /usr/bin/dockerd -H fd:// --containerd=/run/containerd/containerd.sock 0 1000 70187 65976 20 0 17868 2504 pipe_r S+ pts/7 0:00 grep --color=auto docker test$ test$ egrep Cap /proc/2068/status CapInh: 0000000000000000 CapPrm: 000001ffffffffff CapEff: 000001ffffffffff CapBnd: 000001ffffffffff CapAmb: 0000000000000000 test$ Decode the capability flags for this process test$ capsh --decode=000001ffffffffff 0x000001ffffffffff=cap_chown,cap_dac_override,cap_dac_read_search,cap_fowner,cap_fsetid,cap_kill,cap_setgid,cap_setuid,cap_setpcap,cap_linux_immutable,cap_net_bind_service,cap_net_broadcast,cap_net_admin,cap_net_raw,cap_ipc_lock,cap_ipc_owner,cap_sys_module,cap_sys_rawio,cap_sys_chroot,cap_sys_ptrace,cap_sys_pacct,cap_sys_admin,cap_sys_boot,cap_sys_nice,cap_sys_resource,cap_sys_time,cap_sys_tty_config,cap_mknod,cap_lease,cap_audit_write,cap_audit_control,cap_setfcap,cap_mac_override,cap_mac_admin,cap_syslog,cap_wake_alarm,cap_block_suspend,cap_audit_read,cap_perfmon,cap_bpf,cap_checkpoint_restore test$ -- You may reply to this email to add a comment. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [Bug 216667] Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set 2022-11-06 3:04 [Bug 216667] New: Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set bugzilla-daemon 2023-05-19 2:11 ` [Bug 216667] " bugzilla-daemon 2023-05-19 2:28 ` bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-19 13:26 ` bugzilla-daemon 2023-05-19 13:26 ` bugzilla-daemon 2023-05-25 0:55 ` bugzilla-daemon 4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-19 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-man https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216667 --- Comment #3 from Alejandro Colomar (alx@kernel.org) --- If you still feel some wording could be improved, I encourage you to send a patch, according to the ./CONTRIBUTING file in the repo. -- You may reply to this email to add a comment. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [Bug 216667] Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set 2022-11-06 3:04 [Bug 216667] New: Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set bugzilla-daemon ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2023-05-19 13:26 ` bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-19 13:26 ` bugzilla-daemon 2023-05-25 0:55 ` bugzilla-daemon 4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-19 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-man https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216667 Alejandro Colomar (alx@kernel.org) changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO -- You may reply to this email to add a comment. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [Bug 216667] Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set 2022-11-06 3:04 [Bug 216667] New: Self-contradictory description of inheritable capability set bugzilla-daemon ` (3 preceding siblings ...) 2023-05-19 13:26 ` bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-25 0:55 ` bugzilla-daemon 4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: bugzilla-daemon @ 2023-05-25 0:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-man https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216667 --- Comment #4 from Monthero Ronald (rhmcruiser@gmail.com) --- imho the current info of capabilities seem congruous. -- You may reply to this email to add a comment. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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