[Bug 220726] New: Patch of ioctl_vt (2), small clarification.

[Bug 220726] New: Patch of ioctl_vt (2), small clarification.

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            Bug ID: 220726
           Summary: Patch of ioctl_vt (2), small clarification.
           Product: Documentation
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: man-pages
          Assignee: documentation_man-pages@kernel-bugs.osdl.org
          Reporter: teika@gmx.com
        Regression: No

Created attachment 308874
  --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=308874&action=edit
Patch of man/man2/ioctl_vt.2

Let me submit a patch of the man page ioctl_vt (2), which clarifies a bit.

I also have a comment in this page about the struct vt_mode in VT_SETMODE. It
has the member "waitv", which does not seem to be meaningful any more today.

It is because among all files in the kernel source drivers/tty/, it is only
refered once, in vt/vt_ioctl.c, in the line:

vc->vt_mode.waitv = 0;

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--- Comment #1 from Alejandro Colomar (alx@kernel.org) ---
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 04:41:33AM +0000, bugzilla-daemon@kernel.org wrote:
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220726
> 
>             Bug ID: 220726
>            Summary: Patch of ioctl_vt (2), small clarification.
>            Product: Documentation
>            Version: unspecified
>           Hardware: All
>                 OS: Linux
>             Status: NEW
>           Severity: normal
>           Priority: P3
>          Component: man-pages
>           Assignee: documentation_man-pages@kernel-bugs.osdl.org
>           Reporter: teika@gmx.com
>         Regression: No
> 
> Created attachment 308874
>   --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=308874&action=edit
> Patch of man/man2/ioctl_vt.2
> 
> Let me submit a patch of the man page ioctl_vt (2), which clarifies a bit.
> 
> I also have a comment in this page about the struct vt_mode in VT_SETMODE. It
> has the member "waitv", which does not seem to be meaningful any more today.
> 
> It is because among all files in the kernel source drivers/tty/, it is only
> refered once, in vt/vt_ioctl.c, in the line:
> 
> vc->vt_mode.waitv = 0;
> 
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Would you mind sending the patch to the mailing list?  Please see

        $ cat CONTRIBUTING
        Name
               Contributing - instructions for contributing to the project

        Synopsis
               Mailing list, patches, lint & check, style guide, bug reports,
               and more.

        Description
               The main discussions regarding development of the project,
               patches, bugs, news, doubts, etc. happen on the mailing list.
               To send an email to the project, send it to Alejandro and CC the
               mailing list:

                   To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
                   Cc: <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>

        Files
           CONTRIBUTING.d/git
               Instructions for configuring git(1).

           CONTRIBUTING.d/mail
               Instructions for sending emails to the project

           CONTRIBUTING.d/patches/
               Instructions for contributing patches

           CONTRIBUTING.d/bugs
               Instructions for reporting bugs

           CONTRIBUTING.d/lint
               Instructions for linting manual pages

           CONTRIBUTING.d/external_pages
               Pages imported or generated from other projects

           CONTRIBUTING.d/style
               Preferred layout of manual pages and style guide notes

        See also
               <https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/missing_pages.html>

and

        $ cat CONTRIBUTING.d/patches/patches
        Name
                patches/patches - instructions for contributing patches

        Description
                If you know how to fix a problem in a manual page (if not, see
                <CONTRIBUTING.d/bugs>), then send a patch in an email.

                Configure git(1) for this project.  See <CONTRIBUTING.d/git>.

                Send logically separate patches.  For logically-separate
issues,
                send separate emails.  For related issues, send a patch set
with
                a cover letter that gives an overview of all of the patches,
and
                each patch should be a reply to the cover-letter mail.  We
                recommend using git-format-patch(1) for preparing the patches.

                Patches should contain a description alongside the diff.  A
diff
                without a description is mostly useless.  See
                <CONTRIBUTING.d/patches/description>.


Have a lovely day!
Alex

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--- Comment #2 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
Created attachment 308927
  --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=308927&action=edit
VT_SETMODE demontration in python.

Ok, I'll soon (TM) post to the mailing list. Now I close this entry as INVALID.

The attachment is a python code that demonstrates the VT_SETMODE ioctl. It is
for reference.

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Re: [Bug 220726] Patch of ioctl_vt (2), small clarification.

[Alejandro Colomar]

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Hi Teika,

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 07:30:42AM +0000, bugzilla-daemon@kernel.org wrote:
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220726
> 
> --- Comment #2 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
> Created attachment 308927
>   --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=308927&action=edit
> VT_SETMODE demontration in python.
> 
> Ok, I'll soon (TM) post to the mailing list. Now I close this entry as INVALID.

You don't need to close the bug.  You could keep it open until we fix
it.

It's just that we discuss patches in the mailing list.


Have a lovely day!
Alex

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[Bug 220726] Patch of ioctl_vt (2), small clarification.

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teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #3 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
Now I close this bug.

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--- Comment #4 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
Created attachment 308928
  --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=308928&action=edit
VT_WAITACTIVE demo in python.

VT_WAITACTIVE demo in python.

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--- Comment #5 from Alejandro Colomar (alx@kernel.org) ---
Hi Teika,

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 07:30:42AM +0000, bugzilla-daemon@kernel.org wrote:
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220726
> 
> --- Comment #2 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
> Created attachment 308927
>   --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=308927&action=edit
> VT_SETMODE demontration in python.
> 
> Ok, I'll soon (TM) post to the mailing list. Now I close this entry as
> INVALID.

You don't need to close the bug.  You could keep it open until we fix
it.

It's just that we discuss patches in the mailing list.


Have a lovely day!
Alex

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teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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 Attachment #308874|0                           |1
        is obsolete|                            |

--- Comment #6 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
Created attachment 309016
  --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=309016&action=edit
My version of vt_ioctl.2

This is the third version of vt_ioctl.2. Unlike preceding versions this is not
a patch, but the entire file. The second version was posted to the mailing
list:
<https://lore.kernel.org/linux-man/20251110.165618.2111633615163528521.teika@gmx.com/T/#u>.
The accuracy was justified in the post cited above (and follow up emails.)

My contribution is released to the public domain. I don't post the
corresponding patch, but it is based on the git HEAD as of today, i.e.
<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/commit/man/man2/ioctl_vt.2?id=9fbe82>.

The project refuses my work to merge because of not complying with its policy
about the use of AIs. I believe my improvement helps, so hereby post for the
community's sake.

Best regards.

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--- Comment #7 from Alejandro Colomar (alx@kernel.org) ---
Hi Teika,

On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 08:00:04AM +0000, bugzilla-daemon@kernel.org wrote:
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220726
> 
> teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) changed:
> 
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Attachment #308874|0                           |1
>         is obsolete|                            |
> 
> --- Comment #6 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
> Created attachment 309016
>   --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=309016&action=edit
> My version of vt_ioctl.2
> 
> This is the third version of vt_ioctl.2. Unlike preceding versions this is
> not
> a patch, but the entire file. The second version was posted to the mailing
> list:
>
> <https://lore.kernel.org/linux-man/20251110.165618.2111633615163528521.teika@gmx.com/T/#u>.
> The accuracy was justified in the post cited above (and follow up emails.)
> 
> My contribution is released to the public domain. I don't post the
> corresponding patch, but it is based on the git HEAD as of today, i.e.
>
> <https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/commit/man/man2/ioctl_vt.2?id=9fbe82>.
> 
> The project refuses my work to merge because of not complying with its policy
> about the use of AIs. I believe my improvement helps, so hereby post for the
> community's sake.

We don't refuse to take your work.  You seem to refuse to follow our
policies.  You're welcome to do work that is clean of AI, and we'll
consider it.  But AI-derived code will not be accepted anywhere in this
project, including the bugzilla.  I've marked the attachment as private.


Have a lovely day!
Alex

> 
> Best regards.

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--- Comment #8 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
Hi. Hiding my last post here is wrong, because mine was done outside the
man-pages project. Manual pages are GPL'd and anyone can do anything as long as
they obey the license. You don't have the right to do it. Everyone mistakes and
that's ok, but lift it.

Also remember kernel bugzilla is not only for man-pages, and at least the
kernel itself does not have any policy about the AI use. I know my post does
not directly help any projects hosted here right now, but I'm not spamming
either.

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--- Comment #9 from Alejandro Colomar (alx@kernel.org) ---
(In reply to teika kazura from comment #8)
> Hi. Hiding my last post here is wrong, because mine was done outside the
> man-pages project.

This is part of the Linux man-pages project.  Look at "component" up.

> Manual pages are GPL'd and anyone can do anything as long
> as they obey the license.

You're of course free to do anything in your website.  But that license doesn't
give you a right to publish anything in the project infrastructure.

> You don't have the right to do it. Everyone
> mistakes and that's ok, but lift it.

No.

> 
> Also remember kernel bugzilla is not only for man-pages, and at least the
> kernel itself does not have any policy about the AI use.


> I know my post does
> not directly help any projects hosted here right now, but I'm not spamming
> either.

That's why I've hidden your manual page, and not your messages.

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--- Comment #10 from teika kazura (teika@gmx.com) ---
Sorry, I overlooked the component.

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