From: "Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Various pages: Use 'logical' puntuation method for parentheses
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:35:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9c2e62b-46a2-dbab-87a2-cfd3c568df29@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9453042-2af2-4ec5-3269-5ef322a26b19@gmail.com>
On 1/24/21 5:18 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> On 1/24/21 5:06 PM, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote:
>> On 1/24/21 4:10 PM, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>>> This fix places periods after the closing parenthesis.
>>> This is normative in various European languages,
>>> and avoids confusion.
>>>
>>> See "Hart's Rules",
>>> and the "Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors".
>>> See also the spanish "Diccionario Panhispanico de Dudas"
>>> entry about parentheses.
>>>
>>>
>>> Script:
>>>
>>> $ find man? -type f \
>>> |xargs sed -iE '/(etc\.\)|\.\.\.|\.\)\.|\(\.\)| ack\.| ed\.| dec\.|Copyright)/!s/\.\)/)./';
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>> ---
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> I thoroughly reviewed this one, and didn't see any weird things.
>>> I don't have a copy of Hart's Rules, or the Oxford dict.;
>>> I followed the Spanish rules for parentheses, which I guess will be the same:
>>> <https://www.rae.es/dpd/par%C3%A9ntesis>.
>>> You can practice a bit of Spanish reading that ;).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> This patch is too large for vger (395 KiB);
>> what should I do?
>>
>> Split it into <100K chunks? (I think the limit for vger is 100 KiB).
>> Forward a sample of it to linux-man@?
>
> Nothing yet. The patch is wrong. In English, the Lofgical Style pertains only
> to quotes.
>
> In English, punctuation goes inside parentheses when a
> full sentence is involved. (Thus, this sentence is correctly
> punctuated.) It's news to me that Spanish is different!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
Hi Michael,
Hummm! The illogical English-speaking people are... illogical! :-P
That surprised me of American a month ago, and now about British.
So I'm not surprised that you're surprised. It's logical to be
surprised. What is illogical is that the British use the logical style
for quotations, but not for parentheses.
So, we'll have to live with it.
Cheers,
Alex
--
Alejandro Colomar
Linux man-pages comaintainer; https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/
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2021-01-24 16:06 ` [PATCH] Various pages: Use 'logical' puntuation method for parentheses Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-01-24 16:18 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-01-24 16:35 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) [this message]
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