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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: наб <nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] timespec.3type: tv_nsec is impl-def-type, glibc llong not a bug
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 16:48:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfda064c-b3f0-d541-bbee-e3a72c0b3cf3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a67167df30db6019a6320dc92a953f9df3f4db2.1674915219.git.nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz>


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Hey наб!

On 1/28/23 15:17, наб wrote:
> n3091 accepts n3066, making it part of the next working draft and C23:
>    https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n3091.doc
> 
> Update timespec.3type appropriately, largely mirroring my paper.
Nice! :-)

> 
> Signed-off-by: Ahelenia Ziemiańska <nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz>
> ---
> This is in many ways a followup to the patchset that originally added
> the BUGS sexion to timespec.3type, root msgid of
>    <ec1dcc655184f6cdaae40ff8b7970b750434e4ef.1638123425.git.nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz>
> 
> For ease of reference, n3066:
>    https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n3066.pdf
> and the relevant part of n3091 (screenshot, it's a .doc):
>    https://cohost.org/nabijaczleweli/post/922578-pog-pog

What happened in the end with nsec_t?  Was it rejected, or are they still 
considering it?

> 
> 2/3 and 3/3 only span the pages that matched git grep -l tv_nsec,
> but that should be most of the relevant ones
> 
>   man3type/timespec.3type | 46 +++++++++++++----------------------------
>   1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 32 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man3type/timespec.3type b/man3type/timespec.3type
> index 7cd80ce86..ca5533814 100644
> --- a/man3type/timespec.3type
> +++ b/man3type/timespec.3type
> @@ -16,14 +16,27 @@ Standard C library
>   .PP
>   .B struct timespec {
>   .BR "    time_t  tv_sec;" "   /* Seconds */"
> -.BR "    long    tv_nsec;" "  /* Nanoseconds [" 0 ", " 999999999 "] */"
> +.BR "    /*\(da*/   tv_nsec;" "  /* Nanoseconds [" 0 ", " 999999999 "] */"

I'm tempted to merge this patch.  It's sooo qute /*↓*/

Please use the digit separator \(aq for the big number.

>   .B };
>   .EE
>   .SH DESCRIPTION
>   Describes times in seconds and nanoseconds.
> +.PP
> +.I tv_nsec
> +is of an implementation-defined signed type capable of holding the specified range.
> +Under glibc, this is usually
> +.IR long ,
> +and
> +.I long long
> +on X32.
> +It can safely be down-cast to any concrete 32-bit integer type for processing.

Ok.

>   .SH STANDARDS
>   C11 and later;
>   POSIX.1-2001 and later.
> +Prior to C23

A comma here?

> +.I tv_nsec
> +was
> +.IR long .

Please move this to a new VERSIONS sexion.

>   .SH NOTES
>   The following headers also provide this type:
>   .IR <aio.h> ,
> @@ -33,37 +46,6 @@ The following headers also provide this type:
>   .IR <sys/select.h> ,
>   and
>   .IR <sys/stat.h> .
> -.SH BUGS
> -Under glibc,
> -.I tv_nsec
> -is the
> -.I syscall
> -long,
> -though this affects only fringe architectures like X32,
> -which is ILP32, but uses the LP64 AMD64 syscall ABI.
> -In reality, the field ends up being defined as:
> -.PP
> -.in +4n
> -.EX
> -#if __x86_64__ && __ILP32__  /* == x32 */
> -    long long  tv_nsec;
> -#else
> -    long       tv_nsec;
> -#endif
> -.EE
> -.in
> -.PP
> -This is a long-standing and long-enshrined glibc bug
> -.UR https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16437
> -.I #16437
> -.UE ,
> -and an incompatible extension to the standards;
> -however, as even a 32-bit
> -.I long
> -can hold the entire
> -.I tv_nsec
> -range,
> -it's always safe to forcibly down-cast it to the standard type.

Ok.

Cheers,

Alex

>   .SH SEE ALSO
>   .BR clock_gettime (2),
>   .BR clock_nanosleep (2),

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-29 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-28 14:17 [PATCH 1/3] timespec.3type: tv_nsec is impl-def-type, glibc llong not a bug наб
2023-01-28 14:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] clock_getres.2, clock_getcpuclockid.3, pthread_getcpuclockid.3: fix tv_nsec formatting наб
2023-01-28 14:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] man2/clock_getres.2, man2/clock_nanosleep.2, man2/nanosleep.2, man2/timer_settime.2, man2/timerfd_create.2, man2/utimensat.2, man3/mq_send.3, man3/pthread_tryjoin_np.3, man3/sem_wait.3: standardise on "range [0, 999999999]" for tv_nsec наб
2023-01-29 15:48 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2023-01-29 16:29   ` [PATCH 1/3] timespec.3type: tv_nsec is impl-def-type, glibc llong not a bug наб
2023-01-29 16:31     ` [PATCH v2 " наб
2023-01-29 16:41       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-30  2:05         ` наб
2023-01-30 12:56           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-29 16:31     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] clock_getres.2, clock_getcpuclockid.3, pthread_getcpuclockid.3: fix tv_nsec formatting наб
2023-01-29 16:31     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] man2/clock_getres.2, man2/clock_nanosleep.2, man2/nanosleep.2, man2/timer_settime.2, man2/timerfd_create.2, man2/utimensat.2, man3/mq_send.3, man3/pthread_tryjoin_np.3, man3/sem_wait.3: standardise on "range [0, 999\(aq999\(aq999]" for tv_nsec наб
2023-01-30  7:08   ` [PATCH 1/3] timespec.3type: tv_nsec is impl-def-type, glibc llong not a bug Jakub Wilk
2023-01-30 13:15     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-30 13:50       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-30 13:54         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-30 19:47           ` Brian Inglis
2023-01-30 18:38       ` [PATCH v3 " наб
2023-02-05 15:39         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-05 15:49           ` наб
2023-02-05 16:09             ` Alejandro Colomar

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