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From: Alejandro Colomar <colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Wilk <jwilk@jwilk.net>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] memusage.1, bind.2, eventfd.2, futex.2, open_by_handle_at.2, perf_event_open.2, poll.2, signalfd.2, sysctl.2, timerfd_create.2, bsearch.3, cmsg.3, getaddrinfo.3, getaddrinfo_a.3 getgrouplist.3, insque.3, malloc_info.3, mbsinit.3, mbstowcs.3, pthread_create.3, pthread_setaffinity_np.3, queue.3, rtnetlink.3, shm_open.3, strptime.3, tsearch.3, aio.7, fanotify.7, inotify.7, unix.7: Use sizeof consistently
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:34:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d084b7eb-a691-52e8-4996-5080af0175de@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200825111924.gwf3ck4bdq42lrzr@jwilk.net>

Hello Michael & Jakub,

On 8/25/20 12:29 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> I would really have preferred three patches here, since:

I can do that.

>
>> - Never use a space after ``sizeof``, and always use parentheses
>>   instead.
>>
>> 	Rationale:
>>
>> 	https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.8/process/coding-style.html#spaces
>
> (1) This is completely unproblematic from my point of view.

Actually there was only one appearance of that (and another one that
used a space before the parentheses).  It's unproblematic, but it's so
minor that it can be fixed easily.

>> - Use the name of the variable instead of the type as argument
>>   for ``sizeof``, wherever possible.
>>
>> 	Rationale:
>>
>>
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.8/process/coding-style.html#allocating-memory
>
> (2) This one is up for debate. In many cases it makes sense to do
> this. However, there are cases where I think that using the struct
> name can actually help readability. And when I grep through the kernel
> source, of around 139k lines that use "sizeof", some 37k take a
'struct type'
> as an argument. SI, I think this kind of change may need to be
considered on
> a case by case basis, rather than as a blanket change.

Ok. I can send a set of patches with a patch for each page.

>
>> - When the result of ``sizeof`` is multiplied (or otherwise modified),
>>   write ``sizeof`` in the first place.
>>
>> 	Rationale:
>>
>> 	``(sizeof(x) * INT_MAX * 2)`` doesn't overflow.
>>
>> 	``(INT_MAX * 2 * sizeof(x))`` overflows, giving incorrect
>> 	results.
>
> (3) Is this true? "gcc -Wall" does not complain about this. And, I
> thought that in both cases, all operands in the expression
> would be promoted to the largest type. And, on my x86-64 system,
>
> sizeof((sizeof(x) * INT_MAX * 2)) == 8
> sizeof(INT_MAX * 2 * sizeof(x)) == 8
>
> But, I will say tht I'm not a language lawyer, and C still
> sometimes has surprises for me. At the least, I'd like to know
> more about this point.

Well, when I said the first one doesn't overflow, I meant it's much
less likely.

In C, successive multiplications are evaluated left to right (*), and
therefore here is what happens:

``(sizeof(x) * INT_MAX * 2)``:

1) sizeof(x) * INT_MAX	(the type is the largest of both, which is
			 size_t (unsigned long; uint64_t)).
2) ANS * 2		(the type is again the largest: size_t)

``(INT_MAX * 2 * sizeof(x))``:

1) INT_MAX * 2		(the type is the largest of both, which is
			 int as both are int (int; int32_t), so the
			 result is already truncated as it doesn't fit
			 an int; at this point, the intermediate result
			 will be 2^32 - 2 (``INT_MAX - 1``) (if I did
			 the math right)).
2) ANS * 2		(the type is again the largest of both: size_t;
			 however, ANS was already incorrect, so the
			 result will be an incorrect size_t value)

> sizeof((sizeof(x) * INT_MAX * 2)) == 8

Here you were overflowing a uint64_t (if x were a char, it would not
overflow, and the result would be close to UINT64_MAX).

> sizeof(INT_MAX * 2 * sizeof(x)) == 8

Here you were overflowing int32_t, and it would overflow regardless of
sizeof(x).


I wrote an extreme case, but we can agree that 32 bit is much easier to
overflow than 64.


(*): https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/operator_precedence


On 8/25/20 1:19 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>, 2020-08-25, 12:29:
>>>     ``(sizeof(x) * INT_MAX * 2)`` doesn't overflow.
>>>
>>>     ``(INT_MAX * 2 * sizeof(x))`` overflows, giving incorrect
>>>     results.
>>
>> (3) Is this true? "gcc -Wall" does not complain about this.
>
> My GCC (10.2.0) does, even without -Wall:
>
>   $ gcc test-overflow.c
>   test-overflow.c: In function 'main':
>   test-overflow.c:8:52: warning: integer overflow in expression of type
> 'int' results in '-2' [-Woverflow]
>       8 |  printf("INT_MAX * 2 * sizeof(x) = %zu\n", INT_MAX * 2 *
> sizeof(x));
>         |                                                    ^
I guess it will only complain for the first one, doesn't it?

>
>> sizeof((sizeof(x) * INT_MAX * 2)) == 8
>> sizeof(INT_MAX * 2 * sizeof(x)) == 8
>
> Hmm? If there was no overflow, surely you should get a number larger
> than INT_MAX...
>

INT_MAX is INT32_MAX, and given that size_t is 64 bit, sure we can, but
only in the first case.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-25 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-24 13:29 [patch] memusage.1, bind.2, eventfd.2, futex.2, open_by_handle_at.2, perf_event_open.2, poll.2, signalfd.2, sysctl.2, timerfd_create.2, bsearch.3, cmsg.3, getaddrinfo.3, getaddrinfo_a.3 getgrouplist.3, insque.3, malloc_info.3, mbsinit.3, mbstowcs.3, pthread_create.3, pthread_setaffinity_np.3, queue.3, rtnetlink.3, shm_open.3, strptime.3, tsearch.3, aio.7, fanotify.7, inotify.7, unix.7: Use sizeof consistently Alejandro Colomar
2020-08-25 10:29 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-25 11:19   ` Jakub Wilk
2020-08-25 11:34     ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2020-08-25 11:41       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-25 11:48         ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-08-25 12:21           ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-08-25 12:35             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-25 13:05               ` [PATCH] cmsg.3, getaddrinfo_a.3 getgrouplist.3: Use sizeof, consistently Alejandro Colomar
2020-08-26  6:21                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-03 10:23                   ` [PATCH] memusage.1: Use sizeof consistently Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04  8:20                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 10:19                       ` [PATCH (2) 02/34] bind.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 10:21                         ` [PATCH (2) 03/34] eventfd.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 10:46                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 10:54                           ` [PATCH (2) 04/34] futex.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 10:55                             ` [PATCH (2) 05/34] open_by_handle_at.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 10:56                               ` [PATCH (2) 06/34] perf_event_open.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 10:57                                 ` [PATCH (2) 07/34] " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 12:25                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 13:42                                   ` [PATCH (2) 08/34] poll.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 13:43                                     ` [PATCH (2) 09/34] sysctl.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 13:44                                       ` [PATCH (2) 10/34] signalfd.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 13:45                                         ` [PATCH (2) 11/34] timerfd_create.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 13:46                                           ` [PATCH (2) 12/34] bsearch.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 13:50                                             ` [PATCH (2) 13/34] cmsg.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 13:52                                               ` [PATCH (2) 14/34] " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 13:53                                                 ` [PATCH (2) 15/34] getaddrinfo.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:32                                                   ` [PATCH (2) 16/34] " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:34                                                     ` [PATCH (2) 17/34] getgrouplist.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:37                                                       ` [PATCH (2) 18/34] insque.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:41                                                         ` [PATCH (2) 19/34] malloc_info.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:44                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 20/34] mbsinit.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:45                                                             ` [PATCH (2) 21/34] mbstowcs.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:48                                                               ` [PATCH (2) 22/34] pthread_create.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:50                                                                 ` [PATCH (2) 23/34] pthread_setaffinity_np.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:50                                                                   ` [PATCH (2) 24/34] queue.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:52                                                                     ` [PATCH (2) 25/34] rtnetlink.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:54                                                                       ` [PATCH (2) 26/34] " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:55                                                                         ` [PATCH (2) 27/34] shm_open.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 14:57                                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 28/34] strptime.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 15:37                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:03                                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 29/34] tsearch.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-05 14:22                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:04                                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 30/34] aio.7: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 17:15                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:05                                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 31/34] fanotify.7: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 15:38                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:06                                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 32/34] inotify.7: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 17:08                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:07                                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 33/34] " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 17:14                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:08                                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 34/34] unix.7: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 15:12                                                                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-05  8:27                                                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-05  9:37                                                                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-05 14:38                                                                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-05 14:52                                                                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-05 15:24                                                                                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:40                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 17:26                                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 27/34] shm_open.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 17:04                                                                         ` [PATCH (2) 26/34] rtnetlink.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 16:59                                                                       ` [PATCH (2) 25/34] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 16:58                                                                     ` [PATCH (2) 24/34] queue.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:42                                                                   ` [PATCH (2) 23/34] pthread_setaffinity_np.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-05 14:21                                                                 ` [PATCH (2) 22/34] pthread_create.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-05 14:21                                                               ` [PATCH (2) 21/34] mbstowcs.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:27                                                             ` [PATCH (2) 20/34] mbsinit.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:27                                                           ` [PATCH (2) 19/34] malloc_info.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:25                                                         ` [PATCH (2) 18/34] insque.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:25                                                       ` [PATCH (2) 17/34] getgrouplist.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:21                                                     ` [PATCH (2) 16/34] getaddrinfo.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:20                                                   ` [PATCH (2) 15/34] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 13:54                                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-04 15:20                                                 ` [PATCH (2) 14/34] cmsg.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:18                                               ` [PATCH (2) 13/34] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:17                                             ` [PATCH (2) 12/34] bsearch.3: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:14                                           ` [PATCH (2) 11/34] timerfd_create.2: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-05  8:07                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:13                                         ` [PATCH (2) 10/34] signalfd.2: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:11                                       ` [PATCH (2) 09/34] sysctl.2: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 15:11                                     ` [PATCH (2) 08/34] poll.2: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 12:24                                 ` [PATCH (2) 06/34] perf_event_open.2: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 12:20                               ` [PATCH (2) 05/34] open_by_handle_at.2: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 12:19                             ` [PATCH (2) 04/34] futex.2: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-04 10:44                         ` [PATCH (2) 02/34] bind.2: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-25 11:35     ` [patch] memusage.1, bind.2, eventfd.2, futex.2, open_by_handle_at.2, perf_event_open.2, poll.2, signalfd.2, sysctl.2, timerfd_create.2, bsearch.3, cmsg.3, getaddrinfo.3, getaddrinfo_a.3 getgrouplist.3, insque.3, malloc_info.3, mbsinit.3, mbstowcs.3, pthread_create.3, pthread_setaffinity_np.3, queue.3, rtnetlink.3, shm_open.3, strptime.3, tsearch.3, aio.7, fanotify.7, inotify.7, unix.7: " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-05 14:20 ` [PATCH 35/35] qsort.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-05 14:23   ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-05 15:27   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-05 15:32     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-05 15:36       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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