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Branden Robinson" , Michael Kerrisk , Alan Cox , Andi Kleen , Heinrich Schuchardt , Adam Dobes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------JCkxHRdmL4jF0XwM9RZhDwuF" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------JCkxHRdmL4jF0XwM9RZhDwuF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------NS7QrgsEo5LbtZ0sxzomUQWY"; protected-headers="v1" From: Alejandro Colomar To: linux-man@vger.kernel.org Cc: Brian Inglis , "G. Branden Robinson" , Michael Kerrisk , Alan Cox , Andi Kleen , Heinrich Schuchardt , Adam Dobes Message-ID: Subject: Re: SPDX license review requests References: In-Reply-To: --------------NS7QrgsEo5LbtZ0sxzomUQWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/26/23 13:58, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > On 5/26/23 00:56, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > [...] >=20 >> Also, Linux-man-pages-copyleft seems to contain a sentence that >> makes it differ from VERBATIM_PROF: >> >> """ >> The author(s) may >> not have taken the same level of care in the production of this >> manual, which is licensed free of charge, as they might when working >> professionally. >> """ >> >> I believe the quality of non-professional code and manuals to be >> at least as high as the professional one. We have more freedom to >> reject crap. I propose also deprecating Linux-man-pages-copyleft >> and moving to VERBATIM_PROF as the single surviving license from >> all four variants. >=20 > I reconsidered. The non-pro version does actually reflect reality, > as it doesn't say the level of care is less, but just different. > That can --and more often than not does-- mean higher level of care. >=20 > So, I prefer Linux-man-pages-copyleft over VERBATIM_PROF. >=20 > >=20 >> >> We're also discussing the names that each of these four should be >> given in SPDX. >> >> >> I suggest (in order of appearance in this email): >> >> - Linux-man-pages-copyleft to be renamed to the following, and >> mark it as a deprecated license. >> >> Linux-man-pages-copyleft-nopro >> Linux man-pages Copyleft (non-professional) >=20 > I drop my suggestion of renaming this one (and of deprecating it). >=20 >> >> - VERBATIM_PROF to be SPDX'd as: >> >> Linux-man-pages-copyleft-qual >> Linux man-pages Copyleft (high quality) And suggest using -pro and (professional) for this one. But the real name in my mind will be -loqual and (lower quality). ;) >> >> - VERBATIM_TWO_PARA to be SPDX'd as: >> >> Linux-man-pages-copyleft-notrans >> Linux man-pages Copyleft (no translations) >> >> - VERBATIM_ONE_PARA to be SPDX'd as: >> >> Linux-man-pages-copyleft-verbatim >> Linux man-pages Copyleft (verbatim) >> >> >=20 --=20 GPG key fingerprint: A9348594CE31283A826FBDD8D57633D441E25BB5 --------------NS7QrgsEo5LbtZ0sxzomUQWY-- --------------JCkxHRdmL4jF0XwM9RZhDwuF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE6jqH8KTroDDkXfJAnowa+77/2zIFAmRwn04ACgkQnowa+77/ 2zKwSQ//cyO4Q4DhRkMPiBxB9CJsdMAuH8WVH79ANkYk/26c2cNgKbON6MoMBrlV u+wHhXXTn6FHehK6JjgBzwWNA54ltBdc/I4Yv+i7fB6D1ZNcxFpP1BIE/k4FA8Ht VCeg5A5NSehGM/0XqofrE9co7n08zj+VF2+u5gydrCTVBYG/GaBcIXdFZW2fPeHo 6LMn3VNKJX5i16OXRE7i6a6JVJUCKMuarnsD+AqcQM1cMoshsqC9xjp1zHm9kCGp w3UGewgbEUIIcFRoR/ox+SLNx0Luh4G4b42qZoesmkBfz2ocgrKtUdGhlXm2HupE 1U6xfNjyAGW/DjhtiEaFLEOP398NL6M/PauVMfags/vg7MvEv62bxDJs/oIZuVqW cEjda6n4avY81GBA0J4ipXl8CABJ11GZQIX2jZ0iLpmHqyt9WJPyqPMvWLgcxAnw +BGjR3LpJ6B7na0KObAlhTe6sY1tWH8YJDXGMTme5hr7DqX3kdVobGdRWTv3ezx5 3IV2WW4isIRJV6of22sOr353pgBjew6CRuoHU0D3n80byJFlXFWUmopIcuYeZR2l 5sKzHPs6DCPHk6p+0H+HjFG16JExn2lxiKHF5ticykfY2qghdjCLD01IDGGFbJqZ XquimaYVGPvG+qd1rfVUBC0EpFrvB9XjQwx+jNaVQOaATsKI2nA= =J+iR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------JCkxHRdmL4jF0XwM9RZhDwuF--