From: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Thompson <mrt-W77v16wj1OVeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Torvald Riegel <triegel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Peng Haitao <penght-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
Carlos O'Donell <carlos-v2tUB8YBRSi3e3T8WW9gsA@public.gmane.org>,
"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-man@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Differences between man-pages and libc manual safety markings
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:55:05 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ork33jqmqe.fsf@free.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <544EAF20.8050509-W77v16wj1OVeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> (Mark Thompson's message of "Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:46:24 +0000")
On Oct 27, 2014, Mark Thompson <mrt-W77v16wj1OVeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Now suppose we have such an implementation. Consider two distinct
> threads copying the same thing which is longer than a cache line
"/dev/tty" (the constant string copied in the case at hand) is not
longer than a cache line (right? :-), so while your case is compelling,
it doesn't apply.
> Since strcpy will always write at least one byte, can you really argue
> that adding "*dest = 0;" to the beginning of a strcpy function is
> always a bad thing?
Now, this one is compelling *and* fitting IMHO.
Of course we could rule this out in glibc, but should we? Maybe not.
So I guess we're better off fixing the implementation of ctermid(NULL)
to return a pointer to a constant string that (per POSIX) must not be
modified by the caller, rather than needlessly copying it to another
buffer. Then, if/when such a strcpy implementation comes up, we'll be
ready for it ;-)
Thanks,
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2014-10-17 13:26 Differences between man-pages and libc manual safety markings Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2014-10-20 15:47 ` Carlos O'Donell
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2014-10-21 8:53 ` Peng Haitao
[not found] ` <54461F16.2080705-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-23 6:16 ` Alexandre Oliva
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2014-10-23 9:29 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-10-24 11:48 ` Alexandre Oliva
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2014-10-24 12:12 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-10-24 16:31 ` Alexandre Oliva
[not found] ` <orioj9bfaa.fsf-pcXFJVXz+5uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-24 19:15 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-10-30 18:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
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2014-10-30 19:01 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-11-01 8:48 ` Alexandre Oliva
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2014-11-01 10:47 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-11-01 18:32 ` Alexandre Oliva
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2014-11-01 18:58 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-11-03 5:13 ` Alexandre Oliva
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2014-11-03 16:10 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-11-04 0:18 ` Alexandre Oliva
2014-10-27 20:46 ` Mark Thompson
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2014-10-29 8:55 ` Alexandre Oliva [this message]
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2014-10-29 9:12 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-10-30 18:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
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2014-10-30 18:41 ` Torvald Riegel
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2014-11-01 8:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
[not found] ` <oregtn8h23.fsf-pcXFJVXz+5uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-01 12:40 ` Torvald Riegel
[not found] ` <1414845631.10085.474.camel-I2ZjUw8blINjztcc/or7kQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-01 18:22 ` Alexandre Oliva
[not found] ` <or1tpm3hn5.fsf-pcXFJVXz+5uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-01 19:54 ` Torvald Riegel
[not found] ` <1414871691.10085.529.camel-I2ZjUw8blINjztcc/or7kQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-03 5:43 ` Alexandre Oliva
[not found] ` <orzjc8zvn6.fsf-pcXFJVXz+5uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-03 13:07 ` Mark Thompson
[not found] ` <54577E17.7000109-W77v16wj1OVeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-19 0:26 ` Alexandre Oliva
2014-11-03 15:55 ` Torvald Riegel
2014-10-24 12:14 ` Torvald Riegel
2014-10-21 8:31 ` Peng Haitao
2015-01-07 6:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-07 6:16 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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