From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.129.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 121FC34405B for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2026 22:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=170.10.129.124 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783721478; cv=none; b=CH0mjuxQFZx61lyFsd5jMWxOhmbMb0/fZYr0i8CzyaUjz0emGKF++V2iEH1ESEG56MB55t6QfHFk4RwUVovHt7iFNH+w+Cla4Grs67GxWjQvmKkFO++KKlUd54kBGI9A3yVXN/ZFo7s1M27yYcr/kwQ/KV2UgiF6Gg4tekJ3bGE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783721478; c=relaxed/simple; bh=M9ifkqPwLzkgPAKraaLFzMMy3znELkqr67jc8/SpQU8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=bY52+bH8yxc/iqsVr8KWEFa918KCpW9XAXOFEqByILvvyb8mPUsCooaGo39c2X6H7Vm071kS6eVDBJ7Fl28JywJ2HSyCwBE/kFnOGULJdZGgwoqcShZPJDKLmRI+sTHTtULLOispL2jPdfF0v226nF3d9Tlng+GFSNYNnB2b6jU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=redhat.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b=SJ7Sl97z; arc=none smtp.client-ip=170.10.129.124 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b="SJ7Sl97z" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1783721476; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=ifnMZ7JsFJ8PTBhqV33+JvWTAx025ajC/oaVABEkWQc=; b=SJ7Sl97zGxGzClTNYgHSGMthV06vqrTKUZBN55WyvpUgsr9U8K68MczN4mbn7LmE0TOBXo IIhiNpRWfdCjyuPo53bO0zeeat4mPUSyF9sg5R/kqQETdgcbrCU5IAEkTiIUugzbi01iIS hT16XYm5V8O8CzzJACaAvNB/mTdjk1U= Received: from mx-prod-mc-06.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (ec2-35-165-154-97.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [35.165.154.97]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-379-SLx_JE2BPWqKkx99HVZXEw-1; Fri, 10 Jul 2026 18:11:12 -0400 X-MC-Unique: SLx_JE2BPWqKkx99HVZXEw-1 X-Mimecast-MFC-AGG-ID: SLx_JE2BPWqKkx99HVZXEw_1783721471 Received: from mx-prod-int-03.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (mx-prod-int-03.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com [10.30.177.12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx-prod-mc-06.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BE3D1800603; Fri, 10 Jul 2026 22:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from greed.delorie.com (unknown [10.22.89.250]) by mx-prod-int-03.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07D90195608F; Fri, 10 Jul 2026 22:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from greed.delorie.com.redhat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greed.delorie.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 66AMB90S778516; Fri, 10 Jul 2026 18:11:09 -0400 From: DJ Delorie To: "G. Branden Robinson" Cc: alx@kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why we're stuck with man(7) (was: man/man8/ldconfig.8: document system-wide tunables) In-Reply-To: <20260710195854.ud4riftmhrfzu54d@illithid> (g.branden.robinson@gmail.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 18:11:09 -0400 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.0 on 10.30.177.12 "G. Branden Robinson" writes: > * Markdown can't do semantics. And roff has .IR ;-) These days, most of the docs I write are in texinfo or HTML (raw html, not markup). I think I've experienced most of the formats on your list. I think I've written converters between many things on your list. Is there a canonical reference to the flavor of roff that we write to, for modern systems' man page formatters?