* [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
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@ 2008-11-27 13:59 ` Martin Jaburek
2008-12-02 15:50 ` Christoph Pfister
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From: Martin Jaburek @ 2008-11-27 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-dvb
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Hi,
There were some changes in October 2008 in dvb-t multiplexes in Czech
republic, so here is the new one.
Martin
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# file automatically generated by w_scan
# (http://wirbel.htpc-forum.de/w_scan/index2.html)
# DVB-T Praha (Prague, Czech Republic)
# T freq bw fec_hi fec_lo mod transmission-mode guard-interval hierarchy
T 570000000 8MHz AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO
T 634000000 8MHz 2/3 2/3 QAM64 8k 1/4 NONE
T 674000000 8MHz 2/3 1/2 QAM64 8k 1/16 NONE
T 730000000 8MHz 2/3 2/3 QAM64 8k 1/4 NONE
T 770000000 8MHz 2/3 2/3 QAM64 8k 1/4 NONE
T 818000000 8MHz 2/3 2/3 QAM64 8k 1/8 NONE
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* Re: [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
2008-11-27 13:59 ` [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha Martin Jaburek
@ 2008-12-02 15:50 ` Christoph Pfister
2008-12-02 21:07 ` BOUWSMA Barry
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From: Christoph Pfister @ 2008-12-02 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Martin Jaburek; +Cc: linux-dvb
Hi,
2008/11/27 Martin Jaburek <longmatys@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> There were some changes in October 2008 in dvb-t multiplexes in Czech
> republic, so here is the new one.
>
> Martin
+T 570000000 8MHz AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO
Can you please try to find out the actual values instead of "AUTO" there?
Thanks,
Christoph
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* Re: [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
2008-12-02 15:50 ` Christoph Pfister
@ 2008-12-02 21:07 ` BOUWSMA Barry
2008-12-02 22:14 ` BOUWSMA Barry
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From: BOUWSMA Barry @ 2008-12-02 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christoph Pfister; +Cc: Martin Jaburek, linux-dvb
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Christoph Pfister wrote:
> 2008/11/27 Martin Jaburek <longmatys@gmail.com>:
> > There were some changes in October 2008 in dvb-t multiplexes in Czech
> +T 570000000 8MHz AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO AUTO
>
> Can you please try to find out the actual values instead of "AUTO" there?
Or, a quick search (with no background) shows this frequency
is in use at Usti n.Labem (north-ish; would have to search my
maps to quote actual antenna distance and view terrain and
predict if 100kW ERP would cover those 50+km), but I see
nothing using this frequency in the area of Praha -- at least,
not in the two results I looked closely at.
Can you tell me what stations can be received on this frequency,
so I can say which multiplex it is, and then, I could possibly
provide actual modulation parameters as published?
Diky moc,
pivo bouwsma
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* Re: [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
2008-12-02 21:07 ` BOUWSMA Barry
@ 2008-12-02 22:14 ` BOUWSMA Barry
2008-12-02 23:03 ` Tomas Drajsajtl
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From: BOUWSMA Barry @ 2008-12-02 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Martin Jaburek; +Cc: linux-dvb
Oooh, replying to myself. What an egoist. UNFIT TO DRIVE
ON THEE INTERNET. Shameful. May as well write a novel
of nothing but talking to himself. GET A ROOM!
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, BOUWSMA Barry slobbered and dribbled:
> Or, a quick search (with no background) shows this frequency
> is in use at Usti n.Labem (north-ish; would have to search my
> maps to quote actual antenna distance and view terrain and
Relying on g00gle cache with results for `dvb-t praha', it
seems that ``dxradio.cz - přehled DVB-T vysílačů v Česku''
lists frequencies in use at present, and ``DigitálníTelevize.cz >
Pozemní digitální vysílání v České republice'' lists planned
frequencies -- possibly modulation parameters are linked from
the latter, I haven't yet checked, but Real Soon Now I should
map out a cz-all file comparable to my Baden-Wuerttemberg file
to get a better overview...
According to my dead-tree map in ``Poznavame Ceskoslovensko 1.''
the tower for Usti n.L. is directly east, or pretty much directly
north of Praha, a distance about 75km measured by fingers. Bukova
hora is shown as 683m and shows a tower; dxradio.cz lists the
height as 662m.
To the south of Bukova hora is Sedlo at 726m, slightly to the
east; I use `lynx' on console as browser and thus rely on my
maps from 1983. But to the south of that is pretty much clear
sailing to Praha over 200 or 300m terrain, so that in some
parts of Praha I would expect to see a strong signal (I haven't
seen any indication if Usti nad Labem / Bukova hora sends a
directional signal or not) -- particularly at that lower
frequency.
On this frequency one should see the CT and hear the Cesky
Rozhlas channels, as otherwise seen on E53 (730MHz) from
two locations much closer to the centre of Praha.
All this is based on a very quick look at giggle's cache
results. I may need to correct things, which I'll try to
do by posting a scanfile instead. But unless I hear that
different stations are received on this frequency, I'll
posit that E33 does not originate near Praha...
Maybe.
barry bouwsma
ex-radio praha
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* Re: [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
2008-12-02 22:14 ` BOUWSMA Barry
@ 2008-12-02 23:03 ` Tomas Drajsajtl
2008-12-02 23:07 ` Tomas Drajsajtl
2008-12-14 12:54 ` Christoph Pfister
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From: Tomas Drajsajtl @ 2008-12-02 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: BOUWSMA Barry; +Cc: linux-dvb
Here is the actual map: http://www.digizone.cz/texty/mapy-pokryti/
So for Prague:
mux 1 Ceska televize
http://www.digizone.cz/texty/multiplex-1-mapy-pokryti-ceska-televize/
channel 53, 8 MHz, 8k, guard 1/4, fec 2/3, qam 64, hier none
mux 2 Ceske radiokomunikace http://www.digizone.cz/texty/pokryti-sit-a/
channel 41, 8 MHz, 8k, guard 1/4, fec 2/3, qam 64, hier none
mux 3 Czech Digital Group http://www.digizone.cz/texty/pokryti-sit-b/
channel 46, ??? (probably the same, it's the same in Brno, where I live
nearby)
mux 4 Telefonica O2 http://www.digizone.cz/texty/pokryti-sit-c/
channel 64, 8 MHz, 8k, guard 1/8, fec 2/3, qam 64, hier none
(only here the guard interval is different as in Brno)
According to the
http://www.digizone.cz/texty/multiplex-1-mapy-pokryti-ceska-televize/ the
channel 570 Mhz (channel 33) is just a weak copy of mux 1 from Usti n.L.
I hope I will calculate correctly, please check.
mux 1: channel 53 -> 730 MHz
mux 2: channel 41 -> 634 MHz
mux 3: channel 46 -> 674 MHz
mux 4: channel 64 -> 818 MHz
You can use the cz-Brno file I posted here a month ago which should be now
commited in the tree. Just replace the frequencies in that file.
Regards,
Tomas
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From: "BOUWSMA Barry" <freebeer.bouwsma@gmail.com>
To: "Martin Jaburek" <longmatys@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
Oooh, replying to myself. What an egoist. UNFIT TO DRIVE
ON THEE INTERNET. Shameful. May as well write a novel
of nothing but talking to himself. GET A ROOM!
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, BOUWSMA Barry slobbered and dribbled:
> Or, a quick search (with no background) shows this frequency
> is in use at Usti n.Labem (north-ish; would have to search my
> maps to quote actual antenna distance and view terrain and
Relying on g00gle cache with results for `dvb-t praha', it
seems that ``dxradio.cz - přehled DVB-T vysílačů v Česku''
lists frequencies in use at present, and ``DigitálníTelevize.cz >
Pozemní digitální vysílání v České republice'' lists planned
frequencies -- possibly modulation parameters are linked from
the latter, I haven't yet checked, but Real Soon Now I should
map out a cz-all file comparable to my Baden-Wuerttemberg file
to get a better overview...
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* Re: [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
2008-12-02 23:03 ` Tomas Drajsajtl
@ 2008-12-02 23:07 ` Tomas Drajsajtl
2008-12-14 12:54 ` Christoph Pfister
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From: Tomas Drajsajtl @ 2008-12-02 23:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: BOUWSMA Barry; +Cc: linux-dvb
> I hope I will calculate correctly, please check.
> mux 1: channel 53 -> 730 MHz
> mux 2: channel 41 -> 634 MHz
> mux 3: channel 46 -> 674 MHz
> mux 4: channel 64 -> 818 MHz
>
> You can use the cz-Brno file I posted here a month ago which should be now
> commited in the tree. Just replace the frequencies in that file.
...to generate cz-Praha of course. cz-Brno is OK. :-)
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* Re: [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
2008-12-02 23:03 ` Tomas Drajsajtl
2008-12-02 23:07 ` Tomas Drajsajtl
@ 2008-12-14 12:54 ` Christoph Pfister
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From: Christoph Pfister @ 2008-12-14 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tomas Drajsajtl; +Cc: Martin Jaburek, linux-dvb
Hi guys,
I'm updating that file according to the digizone.cz information you
mention here; just that I already use the 15.12.08 settings for mux3
(I don't want to update the file tomorrow again ;)
Hopefully it works as expected and thanks,
Christoph
2008/12/3 Tomas Drajsajtl <linux-dvb@drajsajtl.cz>:
> Here is the actual map: http://www.digizone.cz/texty/mapy-pokryti/
>
> So for Prague:
>
> mux 1 Ceska televize
> http://www.digizone.cz/texty/multiplex-1-mapy-pokryti-ceska-televize/
> channel 53, 8 MHz, 8k, guard 1/4, fec 2/3, qam 64, hier none
>
> mux 2 Ceske radiokomunikace http://www.digizone.cz/texty/pokryti-sit-a/
> channel 41, 8 MHz, 8k, guard 1/4, fec 2/3, qam 64, hier none
>
> mux 3 Czech Digital Group http://www.digizone.cz/texty/pokryti-sit-b/
> channel 46, ??? (probably the same, it's the same in Brno, where I live
> nearby)
>
> mux 4 Telefonica O2 http://www.digizone.cz/texty/pokryti-sit-c/
> channel 64, 8 MHz, 8k, guard 1/8, fec 2/3, qam 64, hier none
> (only here the guard interval is different as in Brno)
>
> According to the
> http://www.digizone.cz/texty/multiplex-1-mapy-pokryti-ceska-televize/ the
> channel 570 Mhz (channel 33) is just a weak copy of mux 1 from Usti n.L.
>
> I hope I will calculate correctly, please check.
> mux 1: channel 53 -> 730 MHz
> mux 2: channel 41 -> 634 MHz
> mux 3: channel 46 -> 674 MHz
> mux 4: channel 64 -> 818 MHz
>
> You can use the cz-Brno file I posted here a month ago which should be now
> commited in the tree. Just replace the frequencies in that file.
>
> Regards,
> Tomas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BOUWSMA Barry" <freebeer.bouwsma@gmail.com>
> To: "Martin Jaburek" <longmatys@gmail.com>
> Cc: <linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] New scan file for cz-Praha
>
>
> Oooh, replying to myself. What an egoist. UNFIT TO DRIVE
> ON THEE INTERNET. Shameful. May as well write a novel
> of nothing but talking to himself. GET A ROOM!
>
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, BOUWSMA Barry slobbered and dribbled:
>
>> Or, a quick search (with no background) shows this frequency
>> is in use at Usti n.Labem (north-ish; would have to search my
>> maps to quote actual antenna distance and view terrain and
>
> Relying on g00gle cache with results for `dvb-t praha', it
> seems that ``dxradio.cz - přehled DVB-T vysílačů v Česku''
> lists frequencies in use at present, and ``DigitálníTelevize.cz >
> Pozemní digitální vysílání v České republice'' lists planned
> frequencies -- possibly modulation parameters are linked from
> the latter, I haven't yet checked, but Real Soon Now I should
> map out a cz-all file comparable to my Baden-Wuerttemberg file
> to get a better overview...
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