[linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

Guys,

I have upgraded my system to the new Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy), using 2.6.24,
64-bit.

And the disconnects are back.

I was using a rather ancient v4l-dvb tree, so I grabbed a new one, and
saw no improvement.

It may be very well linked to the remote, I was recording anything when
this one struck, just using the remote.

I may even have been tuned on the neighbouring cx88 DVB-S card.


Mar 21 21:57:54 favia kernel: [ 7283.416866] dib0700: Unknown remote controller key:  9  0  1  0
Mar 21 21:58:05 favia kernel: [ 7294.501676] dib0700: Unknown remote controller key:  9  0  1  0
Mar 21 21:58:08 favia kernel: [ 7297.111367] usb 10-1: USB disconnect, address 2
Mar 21 21:58:08 favia lircd-0.8.3pre1[5982]: error reading '/dev/input/event6'
Mar 21 21:58:08 favia lircd-0.8.3pre1[5982]: caught signal
Mar 21 21:58:08 favia lircd-0.8.3pre1[5982]: closing '/dev/input/event6'
Mar 21 21:58:08 favia kernel: [ 7297.154576] mt2060 I2C write failed
Mar 21 21:58:08 favia NetworkManager: <debug> [1206136688.229829] nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_2040_9950_4028166400_logicaldev_input'). 
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.074147] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=2)
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.074153] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=6)
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.074156] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.082072] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.090025] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.098098] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.106028] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.114051] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.122059] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.129494] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.137497] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:09 favia kernel: [ 7298.145993] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.292331] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=2)
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.292337] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=6)
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.292340] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.300318] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.308313] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.317636] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.328044] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.332266] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.341351] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 21 21:58:10 favia kernel: [ 7299.348291] mt2060 I2C read failed


dmesg, lsusb -v, lspci -vvv in here:

http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/

The system is described there:

http://www.youplala.net/linux/home-theater-pc

I have 

options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
options options usbcore autosuspend=-1

in /etc/modprobe.d/options

I remain available for any testing and documenting this new step back.

Nico
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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Filippo Argiolas]

Il giorno ven, 21/03/2008 alle 22.51 +0000, Nicolas Will ha scritto:
> Guys,
> 
> I have upgraded my system to the new Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy), using 2.6.24,
> 64-bit.
> 
> And the disconnects are back.
> 
> I was using a rather ancient v4l-dvb tree, so I grabbed a new one, and
> saw no improvement.
> 
> It may be very well linked to the remote, I was recording anything when
> this one struck, just using the remote.

Hi Nico, did you apply my patch? If so could you please try it with a
clean unpatched tree? I'd like to know if this is someway related to my
patch or to dib0700_rc_setup calls.
BTW, I'm evaluating too an early switch from gusty to hardy, did you
experienced any problem? Is it usable? I've heard something about libc6
failures.. has it been fixed?
Thanks

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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Andy Carter]

On Friday 21 March 2008 22:51:50 Nicolas Will wrote:

> It may be very well linked to the remote, I was recording anything when
> this one struck, just using the remote.

I've been running a Nova-T500 for a week and more than 12 hours per day now on 
standard Debian Testing kernel 2.6.24-1-686 and Tobias Grimm's ctvdr 
1.5.18-1ctvdr1 (thanks Tobias for all the vdr bits of yours I've been using 
over the last few years) and have seen 4 disconnects over that time. 

3 of those disconnects have occurred while changing channels using the remote 
(mceusb2)

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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 12:24 +0100, Filippo Argiolas wrote:
> Il giorno ven, 21/03/2008 alle 22.51 +0000, Nicolas Will ha scritto:
> > Guys,
> > 
> > I have upgraded my system to the new Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy), using
> 2.6.24,
> > 64-bit.
> > 
> > And the disconnects are back.
> > 
> > I was using a rather ancient v4l-dvb tree, so I grabbed a new one,
> and
> > saw no improvement.
> > 
> > It may be very well linked to the remote, I was recording anything
> when
> > this one struck, just using the remote.
> 
> Hi Nico, did you apply my patch? If so could you please try it with a
> clean unpatched tree? I'd like to know if this is someway related to
> my
> patch or to dib0700_rc_setup calls.

I would doubt it, but why not.

I'll give it a try.


> BTW, I'm evaluating too an early switch from gusty to hardy, did you
> experienced any problem?


None, it went nicely, as usual, the package management system is nice,
as well as the processes around it.

Just be aware that the kernel upgrade will make your nova-t-500 unstable
like mine. But if you are willing to look into the code, go ahead!

>  Is it usable?

Very as a mythtv system. For a desktop, I would wait a bit more, FF3 is
not there yet, Compiz sees a lot of breakage too. I have a couple of
machines on Hardy.

>  I've heard something about libc6
> failures.. has it been fixed?


A long time ago, that was only a matter of hours until the fix was out.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

Guys,

Well, the disconnects are not remote-related, at least the last
disconnect happened with no interaction whatsoever.

There was no activity on the tuners (like recording) at the time either
(last one had finished 20mn before).

I'm not even sure that there was any EIT scanning going on.


Mar 23 10:32:40 favia kernel: [ 8244.672148] dib0700: Unknown remote controller key:  6 3C  1  0
Mar 23 10:32:41 favia kernel: [ 8245.734970] dib0700: Unknown remote controller key:  6 3C  1  0
Mar 23 10:33:18 favia kernel: [ 8282.337362] dib0700: Unknown remote controller key:  6 3C  1  0


There is quite some time between the last remote use and the disconnect:


Mar 23 10:54:10 favia kernel: [ 9532.658799] usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 2
Mar 23 10:54:10 favia lircd-0.8.3pre1[5992]: error reading '/dev/input/dvb-ir'
Mar 23 10:54:10 favia kernel: [ 9532.693940] mt2060 I2C write failed
Mar 23 10:54:10 favia NetworkManager: <debug> [1206269650.277733] nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_2040_9950_4028166400_logicaldev_input'). 
Mar 23 10:54:10 favia lircd-0.8.3pre1[5992]: caught signal
Mar 23 10:54:10 favia lircd-0.8.3pre1[5992]: closing '/dev/input/dvb-ir'


The delay is quite interesting too, and there is that dvb-usb error that I do not remember seing with 2.6.22 kernels:


Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.272265] dvb-usb: error while stopping stream.
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.274256] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=2)
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.274260] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=6)
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.274261] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.280342] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.288306] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.296243] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.303877] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.311829] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.320208] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.328272] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.335949] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:50 favia kernel: [ 9752.344194] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:51 favia kernel: [ 9753.491057] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=2)
Mar 23 10:57:51 favia kernel: [ 9753.491064] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=6)
Mar 23 10:57:51 favia kernel: [ 9753.491067] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:51 favia kernel: [ 9753.499046] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:51 favia kernel: [ 9753.506578] mt2060 I2C read failed
Mar 23 10:57:51 favia kernel: [ 9753.514949] mt2060 I2C read failed
.....

Nico
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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

Guys,

I was running with the following debug options when I got a disconnect:

options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
options mt2060 debug=1
options dibx000_common debug=1
options dvb_core debug=1
options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
options dvb_usb debug=1
options dib3000mc debug=1
options usbcore autosuspend=-1


/var/log/messages is here:

http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/messages-with_debug

Can that help, or would more be needed?

There was zero remote usage at the time.

Nico


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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

Guys,

I was running with the following debug options when I got a disconnect:

options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
options mt2060 debug=1
options dibx000_common debug=1
options dvb_core debug=1
options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
options dvb_usb debug=1
options dib3000mc debug=1
options usbcore autosuspend=-1


/var/log/messages is here:

http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/messages-with_debug

and slightly different data:

http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/syslog-with_debug

Can that help, or would more be needed?

There was zero remote usage at the time.

Nico


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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Ivor Hewitt]

Nicolas Will wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I have upgraded my system to the new Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy), using 2.6.24,
> 64-bit.
>   
Just thought I'd add, in case anyone was wondering, that I'm still not 
having any problems with vanilla 2.6.22.19 and current v4l-dvb tree.
MythTV multirec with eit scanning enabled.
One or two I2C read failed a day in the kernel log, and an occasional 
I2C write failed.

And no, haven't got around to going through the 2.6.22 vs 2.6.23 diffs yet.

Regards,
Ivor.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 09:47 +0000, Ivor Hewitt wrote:
> 
> Nicolas Will wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I have upgraded my system to the new Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy), using
> 2.6.24,
> > 64-bit.
> >   
> Just thought I'd add, in case anyone was wondering, that I'm still
> not 
> having any problems with vanilla 2.6.22.19 and current v4l-dvb tree.
> MythTV multirec with eit scanning enabled.
> One or two I2C read failed a day in the kernel log, and an occasional 
> I2C write failed.

That was exactly my situation before upgrading my system, which brought
the new kernel version.

Now, with 2.6.24, the disconnects are back with a vengeance, just as it
was nearly a year ago.

I hope that the logs provided will help shed a light on this.

If not, I'm ready to turn debug on on all I can, even if it means
generating gigs of logs.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
> Guys,
>
>  I was running with the following debug options when I got a disconnect:
>
>  options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
>  options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
>  options mt2060 debug=1
>  options dibx000_common debug=1
>  options dvb_core debug=1
>  options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
>  options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
>  options dvb_usb debug=1
>  options dib3000mc debug=1
>  options usbcore autosuspend=-1
>
>
>  /var/log/messages is here:
>
>  http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/messages-with_debug
>
>  and slightly different data:
>
>  http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/syslog-with_debug
>
>
>
>  Can that help, or would more be needed?
>
>  There was zero remote usage at the time.
>
>  Nico
>
>
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A bit off-topic but how do you get the date/time thing ? I only get
the time-since-boot and that is so enoying

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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ivor Hewitt <ivor@ivor.org> wrote:
> Nicolas Will wrote:
>  > Guys,
>  >
>  > I have upgraded my system to the new Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy), using 2.6.24,
>  > 64-bit.
>  >
>  Just thought I'd add, in case anyone was wondering, that I'm still not
>  having any problems with vanilla 2.6.22.19 and current v4l-dvb tree.
>  MythTV multirec with eit scanning enabled.
>  One or two I2C read failed a day in the kernel log, and an occasional
>  I2C write failed.
>
>  And no, haven't got around to going through the 2.6.22 vs 2.6.23 diffs yet.
>
>  Regards,
>  Ivor.
>
>
>
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I downloaded the 2.6.22.19 from kernel.org (that is vanilla right?)
and compiled it on my Ubuntu 7.10
Didn't help. So it can´t be just the kernel that does it.It must be
something more than that.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 09:47 +0000, Ivor Hewitt wrote:
> Nicolas Will wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I have upgraded my system to the new Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy), using
> 2.6.24,
> > 64-bit.
> >   
> Just thought I'd add, in case anyone was wondering, that I'm still
> not 
> having any problems with vanilla 2.6.22.19 and current v4l-dvb tree.
> MythTV multirec with eit scanning enabled.
> One or two I2C read failed a day in the kernel log, and an occasional 
> I2C write failed.

The more I look at logs, the more I believe that the i2c errors are not
the root of the problem.

They are just a consequence of something failing somewhere else.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Jonas Anden]

A wild guess (bash me on the head if I'm wrong), but when you switched
kernel, did you do 'make distclean' in your v4l-dvb directory? Unless
you do, the code will keep compiling (and installing) for the previous
kernel, and your new kernel will only use the stock drivers. That would
explain why you're seeing disconnects again. I made that mistake once...

  // J

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 10:02 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 09:47 +0000, Ivor Hewitt wrote:
> > 
> > Nicolas Will wrote:
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > I have upgraded my system to the new Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy), using
> > 2.6.24,
> > > 64-bit.
> > >   
> > Just thought I'd add, in case anyone was wondering, that I'm still
> > not 
> > having any problems with vanilla 2.6.22.19 and current v4l-dvb tree.
> > MythTV multirec with eit scanning enabled.
> > One or two I2C read failed a day in the kernel log, and an occasional 
> > I2C write failed.
> 
> That was exactly my situation before upgrading my system, which brought
> the new kernel version.
> 
> Now, with 2.6.24, the disconnects are back with a vengeance, just as it
> was nearly a year ago.
> 
> I hope that the logs provided will help shed a light on this.
> 
> If not, I'm ready to turn debug on on all I can, even if it means
> generating gigs of logs.
> 
> Nico
> 
> 
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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 13:49 +0100, Jonas Anden wrote:
> A wild guess (bash me on the head if I'm wrong),

Plonk! ;o)

>  but when you switched
> kernel, did you do 'make distclean' in your v4l-dvb directory? Unless
> you do, the code will keep compiling (and installing) for the previous
> kernel, and your new kernel will only use the stock drivers. That
> would
> explain why you're seeing disconnects again. I made that mistake
> once..

I did a distclean, as usual.

Then I did better, I put the whole tree on the side and got a brand new
one.

And still...

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[John Veness]

Patrik Hansson wrote:
 > A bit off-topic but how do you get the date/time thing ? I only get
 > the time-since-boot and that is so enoying

I don't know if this is how Nicolas does it, but one method is to use 
the Gnome System Log viewer, then copy and paste from that.

Cheers,

John

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 16:40 +0000, John Veness wrote:
> Patrik Hansson wrote:
>  > A bit off-topic but how do you get the date/time thing ? I only get
>  > the time-since-boot and that is so enoying
> 
> I don't know if this is how Nicolas does it, but one method is to use 
> the Gnome System Log viewer, then copy and paste from that.

My syslog daemon does it for me.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 13:36 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 13:49 +0100, Jonas Anden wrote:
> > A wild guess (bash me on the head if I'm wrong),
> 
> Plonk! ;o)

I'll take that back.

And apologise.

Deeply.


> 
> >  but when you switched
> > kernel, did you do 'make distclean' in your v4l-dvb directory?
> Unless
> > you do, the code will keep compiling (and installing) for the
> previous
> > kernel, and your new kernel will only use the stock drivers. That
> > would
> > explain why you're seeing disconnects again. I made that mistake
> > once..
> 
> I did a distclean, as usual.
> 
> Then I did better, I put the whole tree on the side and got a brand
> new
> one.


Because I'm desperate, I did a make distclean, a make and a sudo make
install.

And I rebooted.

And the machine is still up with no breakage.

Ah...

I would have put my kids on the line about what I said I did.

But obviously...

And I did so many things on the box that the shell history does not go
back long enough for me to check.

But obviously, there is no need to check.

To err is human, but, I was pretty certain. It is normally my usual
process. Plus, for the weirdest reasons, I was eager to put myself in
supposedly 2.6.24 problems.



So I hereby put myself in a position where you can bash me on the head,
repeatedly.


But thanks all the same for showing me the light!

Nico
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Re: [linux-dvb] Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 07:54 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 13:36 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 13:49 +0100, Jonas Anden wrote:
> > > A wild guess (bash me on the head if I'm wrong),
> > 
> > Plonk! ;o)
> 
> I'll take that back.
> 
> And apologise.
> 
> Deeply.

ah, no, I take that back as well.

Plonk!

> 
> 
> > 
> > >  but when you switched
> > > kernel, did you do 'make distclean' in your v4l-dvb directory?
> > Unless
> > > you do, the code will keep compiling (and installing) for the
> > previous
> > > kernel, and your new kernel will only use the stock drivers. That
> > > would
> > > explain why you're seeing disconnects again. I made that mistake
> > > once..
> > 
> > I did a distclean, as usual.
> > 
> > Then I did better, I put the whole tree on the side and got a brand
> > new
> > one.
> 
> 
> Because I'm desperate, I did a make distclean, a make and a sudo make
> install.
> 
> And I rebooted.
> 
> And the machine is still up with no breakage.
> 
> Ah...
> 
> I would have put my kids on the line about what I said I did.
> 
> But obviously...
> 
> And I did so many things on the box that the shell history does not go
> back long enough for me to check.
> 
> But obviously, there is no need to check.
> 
> To err is human, but, I was pretty certain. It is normally my usual
> process. Plus, for the weirdest reasons, I was eager to put myself in
> supposedly 2.6.24 problems.

I got a disconnect, again.

So I did not forget to distclean originally.

Crap, I wish it had been so simple.

Back to 2.6.24 causing issues.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 08:47 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> I was running with the following debug options when I got a disconnect:
> 
> options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
> options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
> options mt2060 debug=1
> options dibx000_common debug=1
> options dvb_core debug=1
> options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
> options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
> options dvb_usb debug=1
> options dib3000mc debug=1
> options usbcore autosuspend=-1
> 
> 
> /var/log/messages is here:
> 
> http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/messages-with_debug
> 
> and slightly different data:
> 
> http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/syslog-with_debug
> 
> Can that help, or would more be needed?
> 
> There was zero remote usage at the time.


This is really a cry for help.

I am not a coder, I don't even know where my K&R C book that I bought 17
years ago is anymore, so I cannot dive into the code and pretend to
understand it.

But I can push, pull, help coordinate, document, hg clone, compile,
install, reboot, test, report, publish results on the wiki, and more if
needed.

That card was nearly working 100%, then something broke, and we are back
to the status we had 1 year ago.

Please, please, please...

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 08:47 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
>  > Guys,
>  >
>  > I was running with the following debug options when I got a disconnect:
>  >
>  > options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
>  > options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
>  > options mt2060 debug=1
>  > options dibx000_common debug=1
>  > options dvb_core debug=1
>  > options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
>  > options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
>  > options dvb_usb debug=1
>  > options dib3000mc debug=1
>  > options usbcore autosuspend=-1
>  >
>  >
>  > /var/log/messages is here:
>  >
>  > http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/messages-with_debug
>  >
>  > and slightly different data:
>  >
>  > http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/syslog-with_debug
>  >
>  > Can that help, or would more be needed?
>  >
>  > There was zero remote usage at the time.
>
>
>  This is really a cry for help.
>
>  I am not a coder, I don't even know where my K&R C book that I bought 17
>  years ago is anymore, so I cannot dive into the code and pretend to
>  understand it.
>
>  But I can push, pull, help coordinate, document, hg clone, compile,
>  install, reboot, test, report, publish results on the wiki, and more if
>  needed.
>
>  That card was nearly working 100%, then something broke, and we are back
>  to the status we had 1 year ago.
>
>  Please, please, please...
>
>
>
>  Nico
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  linux-dvb mailing list
>  linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>  http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
>

When you get a disconnect what is needed for you to be able to get it back ?
Just so there is no missunderstanding.


I´m running sasc-ng as cardemulator to be able to use my card for the
encrypted channels here in Sweden and i only have to restart that (and
of course mythtv-backend) and the tuner is back.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Markus Rechberger]

On 3/26/08, Patrik Hansson <patrik@wintergatan.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 08:47 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > I was running with the following debug options when I got a disconnect:
> > >
> > > options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
> > > options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
> > > options mt2060 debug=1
> > > options dibx000_common debug=1
> > > options dvb_core debug=1
> > > options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
> > > options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
> > > options dvb_usb debug=1
> > > options dib3000mc debug=1
> > > options usbcore autosuspend=-1
> > >
> > >
> > > /var/log/messages is here:
> > >
> > > http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/messages-with_debug
> > >
> > > and slightly different data:
> > >
> > > http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/syslog-with_debug
> > >
> > > Can that help, or would more be needed?
> > >
> > > There was zero remote usage at the time.
> >
> >
> > This is really a cry for help.
> >
> > I am not a coder, I don't even know where my K&R C book that I bought 17
> > years ago is anymore, so I cannot dive into the code and pretend to
> > understand it.
> >
> > But I can push, pull, help coordinate, document, hg clone, compile,
> > install, reboot, test, report, publish results on the wiki, and more if
> > needed.
> >
> > That card was nearly working 100%, then something broke, and we are back
> > to the status we had 1 year ago.
> >
> > Please, please, please...
> >
> >
> >
> > Nico
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > linux-dvb mailing list
> > linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
> >
>
> When you get a disconnect what is needed for you to be able to get it back ?
> Just so there is no missunderstanding.
>
>
> I´m running sasc-ng as cardemulator to be able to use my card for the
> encrypted channels here in Sweden and i only have to restart that (and
> of course mythtv-backend) and the tuner is back.
>

The driver will be held back from unloading as long as a devicenode is open.
So restarting all applications which accesses the device nodes should
definitely help if that problem comes up.

Markus

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Henrik Beckman]

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I know how you feel.

I´ve been there but now my box is stable,
root@media:~# uname -a
Linux media 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686
GNU/Linux

My v4l-dvb is from 2008-01-28 and I have patched it with (or atleast the
patches in that dir are),
dib0700-start-streaming-fix.patch
dib300mc_tuning_fix.diff
MT1060_IF1_freq_set.diff
and a patch wich I think is for UHF.

Shall I gzip my source and give you a link?

/Henrik







On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 08:47 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I was running with the following debug options when I got a disconnect:
> >
> > options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
> > options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
> > options mt2060 debug=1
> > options dibx000_common debug=1
> > options dvb_core debug=1
> > options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
> > options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
> > options dvb_usb debug=1
> > options dib3000mc debug=1
> > options usbcore autosuspend=-1
> >
> >
> > /var/log/messages is here:
> >
> > http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/messages-with_debug<http://www.youplala.net/%7Ewill/htpc/disconnects/messages-with_debug>
> >
> > and slightly different data:
> >
> > http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/disconnects/syslog-with_debug<http://www.youplala.net/%7Ewill/htpc/disconnects/syslog-with_debug>
> >
> > Can that help, or would more be needed?
> >
> > There was zero remote usage at the time.
>
>
> This is really a cry for help.
>
> I am not a coder, I don't even know where my K&R C book that I bought 17
> years ago is anymore, so I cannot dive into the code and pretend to
> understand it.
>
> But I can push, pull, help coordinate, document, hg clone, compile,
> install, reboot, test, report, publish results on the wiki, and more if
> needed.
>
> That card was nearly working 100%, then something broke, and we are back
> to the status we had 1 year ago.
>
> Please, please, please...
>
> Nico
>
>
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> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Henrik Beckman]

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One more thing.

I used to run my mythbox on an AMD64 in 64bit on a Nforce 4, but I switched
to a 32bit P4.
This was because my workaround nova-td stick didn´t work with the USB
controllers on the nforce board and I needed the PCI slots, I very quickly
switched from the TD to the Nova-t 500 to test the streaming patch and it
has worked since. On my 64Bit machine I had problems with disconnects on the
TD also.

Is there any differences in disconnects in 64 vs 32 bit systems?

Unfortunatly my 2,6GHz P4 is to slow, or barely coping to be able to handle
the nice 2x deinterlacing
so all is not well here either.



/Henrik

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 19:42 +0100, Henrik Beckman wrote:
> I know how you feel.
> 
> I´ve been there but now my box is stable, 
> root@media:~# uname -a
> Linux media 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686
> GNU/Linux

Sure, my system was stable with 2.6.22 too.

> 
> My v4l-dvb is from 2008-01-28 and I have patched it with (or atleast
> the patches in that dir are),
> dib0700-start-streaming-fix.patch 
> dib300mc_tuning_fix.diff
> MT1060_IF1_freq_set.diff
> and a patch wich I think is for UHF.

I am well aware of those, I am trying to keep the wiki page updated as
much as I can (camelreef is me).

If you grab a recent tree, all those patches have been merged and you
will not need to apply them anymore.

There is only last patch on the wiki that gives remote key repeats, but
it should get in the main tree soon, Patrick put it in his branch.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
>
>  On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 19:42 +0100, Henrik Beckman wrote:
>  > I know how you feel.
>  >
>  > I´ve been there but now my box is stable,
>  > root@media:~# uname -a
>  > Linux media 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686
>  > GNU/Linux
>
>  Sure, my system was stable with 2.6.22 too.
>
Linux IKA 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
Not stable at all here, got 2 disconnects in 2 hours.
So it can't just be the kernel.

>
>  >
>  > My v4l-dvb is from 2008-01-28 and I have patched it with (or atleast
>  > the patches in that dir are),
>  > dib0700-start-streaming-fix.patch
>  > dib300mc_tuning_fix.diff
>  > MT1060_IF1_freq_set.diff
>  > and a patch wich I think is for UHF.
>
>  I am well aware of those, I am trying to keep the wiki page updated as
>  much as I can (camelreef is me).
>
>  If you grab a recent tree, all those patches have been merged and you
>  will not need to apply them anymore.
>
>  There is only last patch on the wiki that gives remote key repeats, but
>  it should get in the main tree soon, Patrick put it in his branch.
>
>
>
>  Nico
>
>
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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 21:52 +0100, Patrik Hansson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >  On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 19:42 +0100, Henrik Beckman wrote:
> >  > I know how you feel.
> >  >
> >  > I´ve been there but now my box is stable,
> >  > root@media:~# uname -a
> >  > Linux media 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007
> i686
> >  > GNU/Linux
> >
> >  Sure, my system was stable with 2.6.22 too.
> >
> Linux IKA 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686
> GNU/Linux
> Not stable at all here, got 2 disconnects in 2 hours.
> So it can't just be the kernel.

Well, fine.

What we need here is a developer.

What a developer needs is info, without it, he will not be able to help.

I've posted logs, now your turn.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 21:52 +0100, Patrik Hansson wrote:
> Linux IKA 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686
> GNU/Linux
> Not stable at all here, got 2 disconnects in 2 hours.
> So it can't just be the kernel.

Didn't you say that you are running Hardy, but downgraded the kernel?

If so, maybe we should look at the user space.

The dvb-utils may be fairly old in Ubuntu.

Can the persons experiencing disconnects post:

Distro
distro version
kernel version (uname -a)
dvb-utils version


I'll start:

Ubuntu
Hardy (8.04)
Linux favia 2.6.24-12-generic #1 SMP Wed Mar 12 22:31:43 UTC 2008 x86_64
GNU/Linux
dvb-utils 1.1.1-3

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
>
>  On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 21:52 +0100, Patrik Hansson wrote:
>
> > Linux IKA 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686
>  > GNU/Linux
>  > Not stable at all here, got 2 disconnects in 2 hours.
>  > So it can't just be the kernel.
>
>  Didn't you say that you are running Hardy, but downgraded the kernel?
>
>  If so, maybe we should look at the user space.
>
>  The dvb-utils may be fairly old in Ubuntu.
>
>  Can the persons experiencing disconnects post:
>
>  Distro
>  distro version
>  kernel version (uname -a)
>  dvb-utils version
>
>
>  I'll start:
>
>  Ubuntu
>  Hardy (8.04)
>  Linux favia 2.6.24-12-generic #1 SMP Wed Mar 12 22:31:43 UTC 2008 x86_64
>  GNU/Linux
>  dvb-utils 1.1.1-3
>
>
>
>  Nico
>
>
>
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Ubuntu
7.10
Linux IKA 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
dvb-utils ?

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Glen Robson]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
> Can the persons experiencing disconnects post:
>
> Distro
> distro version
> kernel version (uname -a)
>  dvb-utils version
>

Fedora Core
release 8 (Werewolf)
Linux chimera 2.6.24.3-34.fc8 #1 SMP Wed Mar 12 18:17:20 EDT 2008 i686
athlon i386 GNU/Linux
dvb-utils ?

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:28 +0000, Glen Robson wrote:
> > Distro
> > distro version
> > kernel version (uname -a)
> >  dvb-utils version

dvb-utils are the tools like femon, tzap, etc... the package can be
called dvb-apps too.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

ah, ok.
I compiled it from linuxtv.org, how do i see what version ?
But wy is that important ? I only got it so i could use femon.

On 3/27/08, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:28 +0000, Glen Robson wrote:
> > > Distro
> > > distro version
> > > kernel version (uname -a)
> > >  dvb-utils version
>
> dvb-utils are the tools like femon, tzap, etc... the package can be
> called dvb-apps too.
>
> Nico
>
>
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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 21:17 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> Well, fine.
> 
> What we need here is a developer.
> 
> What a developer needs is info, without it, he will not be able to
> help.
> 
> I've posted logs, now your turn.
> 

Adding the following lines in your /etc/modprobe.d/options would be a
good start:

options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
options mt2060 debug=1
options dibx000_common debug=1
options dvb_core debug=1
options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
options dvb_usb debug=1
options dib3000mc debug=1

Then post the lines of /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages around the
disconnect event.

Better post them somewhere on a web page or a pastebin.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Henrik Beckman]

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I think we are better of trying to pin the problem down to a point where we
can switch it on/off with a change of kernel or dvb code, may I humbly
suggest.

Verify if the current tree is stable on 2.6.22.
Verify if it breaks with a newer kernel, then check for changes in the
changelog regarding usb.
Collecting debug info about the disconnects is probably very good, let´s
hope someone takes pity on us.

I had problems until my recent config, at the same moment it was stable I
stopped tinkering and haven´t dared to upgrade anything since.
My bet is that the dibcom stuff does something ugly and that there is
changes in the kernel usb code (or even config) that makes the problem
reappear.




/Henrik


On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:

>
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 21:17 +0000, Nicolas Will wrote:
> > Well, fine.
> >
> > What we need here is a developer.
> >
> > What a developer needs is info, without it, he will not be able to
> > help.
> >
> > I've posted logs, now your turn.
> >
>
> Adding the following lines in your /etc/modprobe.d/options would be a
> good start:
>
> options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
> options mt2060 debug=1
> options dibx000_common debug=1
> options dvb_core debug=1
> options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
> options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
> options dvb_usb debug=1
> options dib3000mc debug=1
>
> Then post the lines of /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages around the
> disconnect event.
>
> Better post them somewhere on a web page or a pastebin.
>
> Nico
>
>
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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Chris Simmons]

I hope this isn't too off topic but I wanted to add that I've found 
disconnects less problematic using myth-tv if I turn active EIT. It will 
still collect EIT when you watch/record TV but I find thats sufficient.

Before I did this I was getting an awful lot of disconnects, I switched 
to 2.6.24.3-12.fc8 when I upgraded to myth 0.21, using v4l repo.  Now 
they are fewer and if it does happen then it will recover as soon as the 
tuners are no longer in use because myth releases them.  Eg live tv -> 
disconnect -> quite live tv -> go back, it works.  dmesg shows that the 
card has been restarted.  Beats a script to restart the backend (which I 
used to use) when it disconnects.

Perhaps that information will make someone else's life less painful :)

On an somewhat unrelated note, I was wondering about the firmware.  Am I 
right in thinking this is closed-source (from Hauppauge)?  Could this 
mess be caused by the firmware falling over -> device dies -> usb 
disconnect or other symptoms (like losing a tuner) depending on how the 
USB layer responds?  Not that I have a clue..

Chris.

PS I might have got passive/active muddle up, you want the setting that 
*doesn't* cause the card to be perpetually in use.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 21:38 +0000, Chris Simmons wrote:
> 
> On an somewhat unrelated note, I was wondering about the firmware.  Am
> I 
> right in thinking this is closed-source (from Hauppauge)?  Could this 
> mess be caused by the firmware falling over -> device dies -> usb 
> disconnect or other symptoms (like losing a tuner) depending on how
> the 
> USB layer responds?  Not that I have a clue..

There is certainly a link with the firmware.

Patrick had solved issues by releasing a new version.

This is why it is so important that he gets involved as soon as he can
find time.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
>
>  On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 21:38 +0000, Chris Simmons wrote:
>  >
>  > On an somewhat unrelated note, I was wondering about the firmware.  Am
>  > I
>  > right in thinking this is closed-source (from Hauppauge)?  Could this
>  > mess be caused by the firmware falling over -> device dies -> usb
>  > disconnect or other symptoms (like losing a tuner) depending on how
>  > the
>  > USB layer responds?  Not that I have a clue..
>
>  There is certainly a link with the firmware.
>
>  Patrick had solved issues by releasing a new version.
>
>  This is why it is so important that he gets involved as soon as he can
>  find time.
>
>  Nico
>
>
>
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Tried to collect some info from logs.
messages:
http://pastebin.com/f5cc1bc26
syslog:
http://pastebin.com/f402477c9
debug:
http://pastebin.com/f187de73a

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Patrik Hansson <patrik@wintergatan.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
>  >
>  >  On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 21:38 +0000, Chris Simmons wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  > On an somewhat unrelated note, I was wondering about the firmware.  Am
>  >  > I
>  >  > right in thinking this is closed-source (from Hauppauge)?  Could this
>  >  > mess be caused by the firmware falling over -> device dies -> usb
>  >  > disconnect or other symptoms (like losing a tuner) depending on how
>  >  > the
>  >  > USB layer responds?  Not that I have a clue..
>  >
>  >  There is certainly a link with the firmware.
>  >
>  >  Patrick had solved issues by releasing a new version.
>  >
>  >  This is why it is so important that he gets involved as soon as he can
>  >  find time.
>  >
>  >  Nico
>  >
>  >
>  >
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>
>  Tried to collect some info from logs.
>  messages:
>  http://pastebin.com/f5cc1bc26
>  syslog:
>  http://pastebin.com/f402477c9
>  debug:
>  http://pastebin.com/f187de73a
>

Should have added that the mythfrontend was not watching tv.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 16:46 +0100, Patrik Hansson wrote:
> Tried to collect some info from logs.
> messages:
> http://pastebin.com/f5cc1bc26
> syslog:
> http://pastebin.com/f402477c9
> debug:
> http://pastebin.com/f187de73a
> 

This is missing a bit of context.

And I see no disconnect there.

The mt2060 i2c read/write errors are, I think, a by-product of something
else, and not the real problem. A disconnect happens, then you see the
mt2060 i2c error, not the other way around.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 16:46 +0100, Patrik Hansson wrote:
>  > Tried to collect some info from logs.
>  > messages:
>  > http://pastebin.com/f5cc1bc26
>  > syslog:
>  > http://pastebin.com/f402477c9
>  > debug:
>  > http://pastebin.com/f187de73a
>  >
>
>  This is missing a bit of context.
>
>  And I see no disconnect there.
>
>  The mt2060 i2c read/write errors are, I think, a by-product of something
>  else, and not the real problem. A disconnect happens, then you see the
>  mt2060 i2c error, not the other way around.
>
>
>
>  Nico
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hmm, ok this is odd.
I searched my entire syslog and messages and the only disconnect i
have is from now during the reboot to get the tuner back.

So i have the following:
This morning everything is fine.
In the afternoon i loose a tuner, restarting mythtv-backend and so on
does not bring it back.
I reboot and tuner comes back.
I check the logs and have 0 disconnects.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Nicolas Will]

On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 17:36 +0100, Patrik Hansson wrote:
> 
> hmm, ok this is odd.
> I searched my entire syslog and messages and the only disconnect i
> have is from now during the reboot to get the tuner back.
> 
> So i have the following:
> This morning everything is fine.
> In the afternoon i loose a tuner, restarting mythtv-backend and so on
> does not bring it back.
> I reboot and tuner comes back.
> I check the logs and have 0 disconnects.

You have another problem.

You lose a tuner.

I get a card that disconnects completely, I lose both tuners and the
remote, and get a flood of mt2060 i2c errors, but after the disconnect.


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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Patrik Hansson]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Nicolas Will <nico@youplala.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 17:36 +0100, Patrik Hansson wrote:
>  >
>  > hmm, ok this is odd.
>  > I searched my entire syslog and messages and the only disconnect i
>  > have is from now during the reboot to get the tuner back.
>  >
>  > So i have the following:
>  > This morning everything is fine.
>  > In the afternoon i loose a tuner, restarting mythtv-backend and so on
>  > does not bring it back.
>  > I reboot and tuner comes back.
>  > I check the logs and have 0 disconnects.
>
>  You have another problem.
>
>  You lose a tuner.
>
>  I get a card that disconnects completely, I lose both tuners and the
>  remote, and get a flood of mt2060 i2c errors, but after the disconnect.
>
>
>  Nico
>
>

Oh, ok.
I thought they all were the same, my mistake.
wonder if anyone else on the list have made the same mistake, if so
please let me know (in a new tread or something).
I´ll shut up now.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Ian Cullinan]

I've got one of these (which is described on it's mythTV wiki page as
"fully and reliably supported") in a server that I'm trying to use as
a mythtv backend. It seems I have become one of the many people having
problems with this card and linux. mythtv tells me it can't get a
channel lock, and dmesg tells me:

usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 2
mt2060 I2C write failed
dvb-usb: error while stopping stream.

Interestingly, trying to run lsusb at this point seems to get stuck
inside a system call or something because it never exits and kill -9
doesn't kill it. Restarting mythbackend gets everything back.

This is on kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r3, with hardware:
Gigabyte G33-DS3R motherboard (Intel G33 chipset)
Intel Q6600
2GB RAM (dual channel DDR2-800)

I'm using the dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw firmware.

I saw somewhere on the archives that someone found the problem went
away with the following options to modprobe:
options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
options mt2060 debug=1
options dibx000_common debug=1
options dvb_core debug=1
options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
options dvb_usb debug=1
options dib3000mc debug=1

Problem hasn't gone away (but seems less frequent), and I figure
someone here could use the debugging data so here's the relevant part
of my syslog:
http://pastebin.com/f34ed8e20
(disconnect even is pretty much at the top, and down the bottom is
where I restarted mythbackend).

Ian Cullinan

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Antti Luoma]

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Hi,

it's the the kernel version that causes the problem, you should compile it
yourself or get it from gentoo somehow.
I Think issue affects all USB-DVB-T users with kernel 2.6.24

see this post:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/209603

or

this list (solved post)

-antti-

2008/3/30, Ian Cullinan <cibyr@cibyr.com>:
>
> I've got one of these (which is described on it's mythTV wiki page as
> "fully and reliably supported") in a server that I'm trying to use as
> a mythtv backend. It seems I have become one of the many people having
> problems with this card and linux. mythtv tells me it can't get a
> channel lock, and dmesg tells me:
>
> usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 2
> mt2060 I2C write failed
> dvb-usb: error while stopping stream.
>
> Interestingly, trying to run lsusb at this point seems to get stuck
> inside a system call or something because it never exits and kill -9
> doesn't kill it. Restarting mythbackend gets everything back.
>
> This is on kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r3, with hardware:
> Gigabyte G33-DS3R motherboard (Intel G33 chipset)
> Intel Q6600
> 2GB RAM (dual channel DDR2-800)
>
> I'm using the dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw firmware.
>
> I saw somewhere on the archives that someone found the problem went
> away with the following options to modprobe:
>
> options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=1
> options mt2060 debug=1
> options dibx000_common debug=1
> options dvb_core debug=1
> options dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1
> options dvb_core frontend_debug=1
> options dvb_usb debug=1
> options dib3000mc debug=1
>
>
> Problem hasn't gone away (but seems less frequent), and I figure
> someone here could use the debugging data so here's the relevant part
> of my syslog:
> http://pastebin.com/f34ed8e20
> (disconnect even is pretty much at the top, and down the bottom is
> where I restarted mythbackend).
>
>
> Ian Cullinan
>
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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Andy Carter]

On Monday 31 March 2008 20:44:50 Antti Luoma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> it's the the kernel version that causes the problem, you should compile it
> yourself or get it from gentoo somehow.
> I Think issue affects all USB-DVB-T users with kernel 2.6.24

Not so. 

I've been running Nova T-500 for three weeks with 4 disconnects in the first 
24 hours but none since on a stock debian 2.6.24 kernel

> see this post:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/209603

I hope this solves the problem others seem to be plagued with, but I'm puzzled 
as to why it's so stable here

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now with debug info - Nova-T-500 disconnects - They are back!

[Eamonn Sullivan]

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Andy Carter <dvb@ply.me.uk> wrote:
> On Monday 31 March 2008 20:44:50 Antti Luoma wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > it's the the kernel version that causes the problem, you should compile it
>  > yourself or get it from gentoo somehow.
>  > I Think issue affects all USB-DVB-T users with kernel 2.6.24
>
>  Not so.
>
>  I've been running Nova T-500 for three weeks with 4 disconnects in the first
>  24 hours but none since on a stock debian 2.6.24 kernel

Has the patch been applied already to the stock debian kernel? The
code was committed early in the month (March 8, IIRC). Ubuntu is in
kernel freeze for the next release, so it's possible it just didn't
make the cutoff.

>
>
>  > see this post:
>  > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/209603
>
>  I hope this solves the problem others seem to be plagued with, but I'm puzzled
>  as to why it's so stable here
>
>  Andy

There seems to be a couple of common factors in the problem reports --
marginal or poor signal and using active EIT to get the programme
guide. My signal hovers around 52-64 percent, with a booster. I think
my antenna need replacing. My disconnects reduced quite a bit when I
turned off the Active EIT setting, although i still get disconnected
frequently.

Then again, maybe it's just the alignment of the planets out your way...

-Eamonn

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