[linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Eamonn Sullivan]

Hi, I'm a long-time linux user (since the early 1990s, pre-1.0), but
absolutely brand spanking new to mythtv and digital TV cards. I have a
new PC set up with the latest mythbuntu (beta 8.04, due out in a few
weeks). I've been trying to get a Nova-T 500 to work reliably without
much luck. The card (as noted now on the wiki -- unfortunately not
when I bought it) has serious problems with the new Linux kernel. I
can't get it to work for more than a few hours at a time, and the
remote is even worse. I'm in London, with a strong signal (and a
booster too), so I don't think that's the problem. The PC connected to
the main TV is a backend/frontend, so periodically restarting the
backend doesn't fix the remote control problem (you have to log out
and log back in again, which is too painful for what should be as
simple to use for the wife and kids as sky+...)

I've pulled the latest driver sources, followed all the instructions
on the various wiki pages, have the latest firmware, etc., but I'm
ready to give up. I'm going to try an MCE remote, which by all reports
seems well supported in Linux, and I'm ready to try a new DVB card(s).
Dual-tuner is preferred, but I can also just install two.

Can anyone recommend a DVB card that they know works reliably with
hardy heron (ubuntu 8.04) and/or the 2.6.24 kernel, something that's
available now down at PC World or on amazon.co.uk?

Thanks much in advance.

-Eamonn

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Nico Sabbi]

On Thursday 27 March 2008 10:13:09 Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> Hi, I'm a long-time linux user (since the early 1990s, pre-1.0),
> but absolutely brand spanking new to mythtv and digital TV cards. I
> have a new PC set up with the latest mythbuntu (beta 8.04, due out
> in a few weeks). I've been trying to get a Nova-T 500 to work
> reliably without much luck. The card (as noted now on the wiki --
> unfortunately not when I bought it) has serious problems with the
> new Linux kernel. I can't get it to work for more than a few hours
> at a time, and the remote is even worse. I'm in London, with a
> strong signal (and a booster too), so I don't think that's the
> problem. The PC connected to the main TV is a backend/frontend, so
> periodically restarting the backend doesn't fix the remote control
> problem (you have to log out and log back in again, which is too
> painful for what should be as simple to use for the wife and kids
> as sky+...)
>
> I've pulled the latest driver sources, followed all the
> instructions on the various wiki pages, have the latest firmware,
> etc., but I'm ready to give up. I'm going to try an MCE remote,
> which by all reports seems well supported in Linux, and I'm ready
> to try a new DVB card(s). Dual-tuner is preferred, but I can also
> just install two.
>
> Can anyone recommend a DVB card that they know works reliably with
> hardy heron (ubuntu 8.04) and/or the 2.6.24 kernel, something
> that's available now down at PC World or on amazon.co.uk?
>
> Thanks much in advance.
>
> -Eamonn
>

technisat airstar2 pci is perfect. It has a single (and dvb only) 
tuner  with a coaxial pass-through

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Andy Carter]

On Thursday 27 March 2008 09:13:09 Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> Hi, I'm a long-time linux user (since the early 1990s, pre-1.0), but
> absolutely brand spanking new to mythtv and digital TV cards. I have a
> new PC set up with the latest mythbuntu (beta 8.04, due out in a few
> weeks). I've been trying to get a Nova-T 500 to work reliably without
> much luck. The card (as noted now on the wiki -- unfortunately not
> when I bought it) has serious problems with the new Linux kernel. 

I'm running a Nova T500 here on Debian 2.6.24-1-686 with very few problems - 4 
disconnects 2 weeks ago shortly after install but fine since.

> I can't get it to work for more than a few hours at a time, and the
> remote is even worse. I'm in London, with a strong signal (and a
> booster too), so I don't think that's the problem. 

I'm just inside the M25 near St Albans pointed at Crystal Palace.

]snip]

> I'm going to try an MCE remote, which by all reports
> seems well supported in Linux, 

I was using an Igor device for many years but it always seemed too much 
trouble to install after an upgrade so I've been using mceusb2 for a long 
time with no problems.

> and I'm ready to try a new DVB card(s). 
> Dual-tuner is preferred, but I can also just install two.

A standard Nova T worked fine for me for many years and there are a few on 
ebay ATM.

Andy

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Tom Lanyon]

On 27/03/2008, at 7:43 PM, Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a DVB card that they know works reliably with
> hardy heron (ubuntu 8.04) and/or the 2.6.24 kernel, something that's
> available now down at PC World or on amazon.co.uk?

Same question here -- I was looking for a dual DVB-T card but there  
doesn't seem to be anything available for PCI-e or PCI that will work  
out-of-the-box.

I've been using a TwinHan VisionDTV single tuner PCI card but the  
reception is very poor compared to my set top box.

Any suggestions?

-Tom

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Eamonn Sullivan]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Nico Sabbi <Nicola.Sabbi@poste.it> wrote:
>
>  technisat airstar2 pci is perfect. It has a single (and dvb only)
>  tuner  with a coaxial pass-through
>
I'm assuming you mean the SkyStar. I'll take a look, thanks.

-Eamonn

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Nico Sabbi]

On Thursday 27 March 2008 10:50:02 Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Nico Sabbi <Nicola.Sabbi@poste.it> 
wrote:
> >  technisat airstar2 pci is perfect. It has a single (and dvb
> > only) tuner  with a coaxial pass-through
>
> I'm assuming you mean the SkyStar. I'll take a look, thanks.
>
> -Eamonn

no, airstar is for dvb-t, skystar is for dvb-s

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Eamonn Sullivan]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Andy Carter <dvb@ply.me.uk> wrote:
>  I'm running a Nova T500 here on Debian 2.6.24-1-686 with very few problems - 4
>  disconnects 2 weeks ago shortly after install but fine since.

>From other messages on this topic, it seems the problem may not be
directly related to the kernel. Perhaps something in the changes
ubuntu has done to the stock debian base is to blame.

>  > I'm going to try an MCE remote, which by all reports
>  > seems well supported in Linux,
>
>  I was using an Igor device for many years but it always seemed too much
>  trouble to install after an upgrade so I've been using mceusb2 for a long
>  time with no problems.

Wonderful, that's good to here. My MCE remote is in the post.

>  A standard Nova T worked fine for me for many years and there are a few on
>  ebay ATM.

A standard, meaning an earlier version (not the 500)?

-Eamonn

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Tom Lanyon]

On 27/03/2008, at 8:44 PM, Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Andy Carter <dvb@ply.me.uk> wrote:
>> I'm running a Nova T500 here on Debian 2.6.24-1-686 with very few  
>> problems - 4
>> disconnects 2 weeks ago shortly after install but fine since.
>
> From other messages on this topic, it seems the problem may not be
> directly related to the kernel. Perhaps something in the changes
> ubuntu has done to the stock debian base is to blame.
>
>>> I'm going to try an MCE remote, which by all reports
>>> seems well supported in Linux,
>>
>> I was using an Igor device for many years but it always seemed too  
>> much
>> trouble to install after an upgrade so I've been using mceusb2 for  
>> a long
>> time with no problems.
>
> Wonderful, that's good to here. My MCE remote is in the post.
>
>> A standard Nova T worked fine for me for many years and there are a  
>> few on
>> ebay ATM.
>
> A standard, meaning an earlier version (not the 500)?
>
> -Eamonn

Sounds like I shouldn't be scared of the T-500 unless I'm running  
2.6.24. I will order one and see how it goes.

Thanks list.

--Tom

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Andy Carter]

On Thursday 27 March 2008 10:14:07 Eamonn Sullivan wrote:

> A standard, meaning an earlier version (not the 500)?

Yup, like the 909 on this page

http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/prods_digital-t.html

These are standard PCI not the PCI/usb used by Nova T500 and similar

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Eamonn Sullivan]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Andy Carter <dvb@ply.me.uk> wrote:
> On Thursday 27 March 2008 10:14:07 Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
>
>  > A standard, meaning an earlier version (not the 500)?
>
>  Yup, like the 909 on this page
>
>  http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/prods_digital-t.html
>
>  These are standard PCI not the PCI/usb used by Nova T500 and similar

I think the issue with this one, if I understand the reviews
correctly, is that it lacks any on-board amplifier. Given that the
Nova-T 500 is already receiving a much weaker signal than I get with a
standard freeview box (is that a driver issue?), I think this could be
a problem.

I'm getting the impression that there aren't a whole lot of choices
out there for DVB-T. I suppose I could also just use an older version
of the Linux kernel, but unlike others here, the Nova-T 500 wasn't
working very reliably for me under Ubuntu 7.10 either. It worked for
maybe a day. I had a cron task to reboot the machine in the middle of
the night, which was an ugly hack around that problem, and at least it
would record most programs. But the remote wouldn't last longer than a
few hours...

Any other suggestions for a DVB-T card that is known to work on the
current mythbuntu beta?

-Eamonn

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Andy Carter]

On Thursday 27 March 2008 12:56:41 Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Andy Carter <dvb@ply.me.uk> wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 March 2008 10:14:07 Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> >  > A standard, meaning an earlier version (not the 500)?
> >
> >  Yup, like the 909 on this page
> >
> >  http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/prods_digital-t.html
> >
> >  These are standard PCI not the PCI/usb used by Nova T500 and similar
>
> I think the issue with this one, if I understand the reviews
> correctly, is that it lacks any on-board amplifier. Given that the
> Nova-T 500 is already receiving a much weaker signal than I get with a
> standard freeview box (is that a driver issue?), I think this could be
> a problem.

That's certainly true with my old setup with a 4 year old PCI card which 
required an aerial amp to function at all well - albeit on a standard antenna 
and standard coax drop lead. 

The Nova T500 does provide much better reception here, amp turned down 
considerably and noticeably less glitches and artefacts.

> I'm getting the impression that there aren't a whole lot of choices
> out there for DVB-T. I suppose I could also just use an older version
> of the Linux kernel, but unlike others here, the Nova-T 500 wasn't
> working very reliably for me under Ubuntu 7.10 either. It worked for
> maybe a day. I had a cron task to reboot the machine in the middle of
> the night, which was an ugly hack around that problem, and at least it
> would record most programs. But the remote wouldn't last longer than a
> few hours...

Not ideal :(

Incidentally if Phil Pemberton is reading this, my stable system is using an 
Intel usb chipset.

Andy

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Re: [linux-dvb] Recommendations for a DVB-T card for 2.6.24

[Nicolas Will]

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 13:35 +0000, Andy Carter wrote:
> 
> Incidentally if Phil Pemberton is reading this, my stable system is
> using an 
> Intel usb chipset.
> 

Same here.

Nico


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