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From: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
Cc: Kamil Debski <k.debski@samsung.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	'Kyungmin Park' <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	'Sakari Ailus' <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	'Hans Verkuil' <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] v4l: added V4L2_BUF_FLAG_EOS flag indicating the last frame in the stream
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:42:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1334918574.1503.140.camel@AMDC1061> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1334918312.1503.138.camel@AMDC1061>

On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 12:38 +0200, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 10:58 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em 13-04-2012 13:31, Kamil Debski escreveu:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > >> From: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-media-
> > >> Sent: 10 April 2012 11:51
> > >>
> > >> v4l: added V4L2_BUF_FLAG_EOS flag indicating the last frame in the stream
> > >>
> > >> Some devices requires indicator if the buffer is the last one in the
> > >> stream.
> > >> Applications and drivers can use this flag in such case.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>
> > >> ---
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> This patch adds new v4l2_buffer flag V4L2_BUF_FLAG_EOS. This flag is set
> > >> by applications on the output buffer to indicate the last buffer of the
> > >> stream.
> > >>
> > >> Some devices (eg. s5p_mfc) requires presence of the end-of-stream
> > >> indicator
> > >> together with the last buffer.
> > >> Common practice of sending empty buffer to indicate end-of-strem do not
> > >> work in
> > >> such case.
> > >>
> > >> I would like to ask for review and comments.
> > >>
> > >> Apologies for duplicated e-mails - sendmail problems.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> Andrzej Hajda
> > >>
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > Maybe I could throw some more light at the problem.
> > > 
> > > The problem is that when the encoding is done it is necessary to mark the
> > > last frame of the video that is encoded. It is needed because the hardware
> > > may need to return some encoded buffers that are kept in the hardware.
> > 
> > Are you talking only about V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_OUTPUT? 
> 
> Hardware encoder requires that the last frame sent to device should be
> specially marked. So this flag in our case is only for
> V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_OUTPUT buffers. As a result of this mark device will
> encode and release all frames cached in internal buffers, so the driver
> can enqueue them in V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_CAPTURE queue.
> Sample encoding scenario:
> Frame1 -> Dev
> Frame2 -> Dev
> Dev -> Encoded1
> Frame3 marked as the last one -> Dev
> Dev -> Encoded2
> Dev -> Encoded3
> Dev signals end of encoded stream
> 
> Without this mark we will not receive encoded frame 3. And there will be
> no signal from the device about the end of encoded stream.
> 
> > > Why the buffers are kept in hardware one might ask? The answer to this
> > > question is following. The video frames are enqueued in MFC in presentation
> > > order and the encoded frames are dequeued in decoding order.
> > > 
> > > Let's see an example:
> > > 			           1234567
> > > The presentation order is:   IBBPBBP--
> > > The decoding order here is:  --IPBBPBB
> > > (the P frames have to be decoded before B frames as B frames reference
> > > both preceding and following frame; when no B frames are used then
> > > there is no delay)
> > > 
> > > So there is a delay of two buffers returned on the CAPTURE side to the
> > > OUTPUT queue. After the last frame is encoded these buffers have to be
> > > returned to the user. Our hardware needs to know that it is the last frame
> > > before it is encoded, so the idea is to add a flag that would mark the
> > > buffer as the last one.
> > > 
> > > The flag could also be used to mark the last frame during decoding - now
> > > it is done by setting bytesused to 0. The EOS flag could be used in addition
> > > to that.
> > > 
> > > Comments are welcome.
> > 
> > For V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_CAPTURE, a change like the one proposed has issues
> > to be considered: this kind of issue may happen on any driver delivering MPEG
> > format. 
> > 
> > So, if we're willing to introduce flags for MPEG-specific handling like that, 
> > then all drivers delivering mpeg outputs should be patched, and not only the
> > drivers you're maintaining, otherwise userspace applications can't trust that 
> > this feature is there.
> 
> This flag on V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_CAPTURE is not required by our
> hardware. Since we cannot eliminate empty buffers for signaling end of
> encoded stream for compatibility reasons, there will be no real profit
> from using it.
> 
> > Btw, the encoder API, designed to mpeg encoders addresses it on a different way:
> > V4L2_ENC_CMD_STOP stops an mpeg stream, but it waits until the end of a group
> > of pictures:
> >     http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/vidioc-encoder-cmd.html
> > 
> > At least for video capture, this seems to work fine.
> 
> In case of our hardware we cannot send STOP command after sending the
> last frame, we should sent it together.
> Possible workaround I see is that driver will not send
> V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_OUTPUT frame to device unless there is another one
> in V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_CAPTURE queue, or it receives V4L2_ENC_CMD_STOP.

Ups, should be "in V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_OUTPUT queue".

> This solution seems to me less straightforward that the proposed one and
> adds phony requirement on number of V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_OUTPUT
> buffers(at least 2).
> 
> > 
> > For video output, it could make sense to have a flag mark the end of a GoP,
> > but, again, if we're thinking that the source could be a V4L2 capture, the
> > GoP end should be marked there, and the patches adding support for it will
> > need to touch the existing drivers that have mpeg encoders/decoders, in order
> > to be sure that, after a certain V4L2 API, all of them will support such
> > feature.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Mauro
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Andrzej
> 
> 
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      reply	other threads:[~2012-04-20 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-10  9:50 [RFC/PATCH] v4l: added V4L2_BUF_FLAG_EOS flag indicating the last frame in the stream Andrzej Hajda
2012-04-13 16:31 ` Kamil Debski
2012-04-19 13:58   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-04-20 10:38     ` Andrzej Hajda
2012-04-20 10:42       ` Andrzej Hajda [this message]

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