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From: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	Olivier BRAUN <olivier.braun@stereolabs.com>,
	Troy Kisky <troy.kisky@boundarydevices.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Philipp Zabel <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>,
	Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 8/9] media: uvcvideo: Rename uvc_{un,}init_video()
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 16:41:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1541778063.4112.51.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9290334.s72v5oSQOh@avalon>

On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 22:25 +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Kieran,
> 
> On Wednesday, 7 November 2018 16:30:46 EET Kieran Bingham wrote:
> > On 06/11/2018 23:13, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 6 November 2018 23:27:19 EET Kieran Bingham wrote:
> > > > From: Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>
> > > > 
> > > > We have both uvc_init_video() and uvc_video_init() calls which can be
> > > > quite confusing to determine the process for each. Now that video
> > > > uvc_video_enable() has been renamed to uvc_video_start_streaming(),
> > > > adapt these calls to suit the new flow.
> > > > 
> > > > Rename uvc_init_video() to uvc_video_start() and uvc_uninit_video() to
> > > > uvc_video_stop().
> > > 
> > > I agree that these functions are badly named and should be renamed. We are
> > > however entering the nitpicking territory :-) The two functions do more
> > > that starting and stopping, they also allocate and free URBs and the
> > > associated buffers. It could also be argued that they don't actually
> > > start and stop anything, as beyond URB management, they just queue the
> > > URBs initially and kill them. I thus wonder if we could come up with
> > > better names.
> > 
> > Well the act of killing (poisoning now) the URBs will certainly stop the
> > stream, but I guess submitting the URBs isn't necessarily the key act to
> > starting the stream.
> > 
> > I believe that needs the interface to be set correctly, and the buffers
> > to be available?
> > 
> > Although - I've just double-checked uvc_{video_start,init_video}() and
> > that is indeed what it does?
> > 
> >  - start stats
> >  - Initialise endpoints
> >    - Perform allocations
> >  - Submit URBs
> > 
> > Am I missing something? Is there another step that is pivotal to
> > starting the USB packet/urb stream flow after this point ?
> > 
> > 
> > Is it not true that the USB stack will start processing data at
> > submitting URB completion callbacks after the end of uvc_video_start();
> > and will no longer process data at the end of uvc_video_stop() (and thus
> > no more completion callbacks)?
> > 
> >  (That's a real question to verify my interpretation)
> > 
> > To me - these functions feel like the real 'start' and 'stop' components
> > of the data stream - hence my choice in naming.
> 
> The other part of the start operation is committing the streaming parameters 
> (see uvc_video_start_streaming()). For the stop operation it's issuing a 
> SET_INTERFACE or CLEAR_FEATURE(HALT) request (see uvc_video_stop_streaming()).
> 
> > Is your concern that you would like the functions to be more descriptive
> > over their other actions such as? :
> > 
> >   uvc_video_initialise_start()
> >   uvc_video_allocate_init_start()
> > 
> > Or something else? (I don't think those two are good names though)
> 
> Probably something else :-) A possibly equally bad proposal would be 
> uvc_video_start_transfer() and uvc_video_stop_transfer().

I think this is still better than what we have now.

At least it contains "transfer" to make it clear it deals with the
isoc/bulk transfer setup/teardown part of streaming, not actually
starting or stopping the device streaming.

regards
Philipp

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-10  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-06 21:27 [PATCH v5 0/9] Asynchronous UVC Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] media: uvcvideo: Refactor URB descriptors Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] media: uvcvideo: Convert decode functions to use new context structure Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] media: uvcvideo: Protect queue internals with helper Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] media: uvcvideo: queue: Simplify spin-lock usage Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] media: uvcvideo: queue: Support asynchronous buffer handling Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 22:38   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] media: uvcvideo: Move decode processing to process context Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 22:58   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-07 12:22     ` Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] media: uvcvideo: Split uvc_video_enable into two Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 23:08   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-07 12:20     ` Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] media: uvcvideo: Rename uvc_{un,}init_video() Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 23:13   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-07 14:30     ` Kieran Bingham
2018-11-07 20:25       ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-09 15:41         ` Philipp Zabel [this message]
2018-11-09 16:08           ` Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] media: uvcvideo: Utilise for_each_uvc_urb iterator Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 23:21   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-07 13:50     ` Kieran Bingham
2018-11-06 23:31 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] Asynchronous UVC Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-08 17:01   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-09 13:25     ` Kieran Bingham
2018-11-27 20:17 ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-27 21:48   ` Laurent Pinchart

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