From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: "Matwey V. Kornilov" <matwey@sai.msu.ru>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>,
Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
mingo@redhat.com, Mike Isely <isely@pobox.com>,
Bhumika Goyal <bhumirks@gmail.com>,
Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
keiichiw@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] media: usb: pwc: Don't use coherent DMA buffers for ISO transfer
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:35:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1556658.LS2rrRvGR3@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJs94EahjbkJRWKR=2QeD=tOMR=kznwXbQgTbKvSuTg4jBk1ew@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Matwey,
On Tuesday, 24 July 2018 21:56:09 EEST Matwey V. Kornilov wrote:
> 2018-07-23 21:57 GMT+03:00 Alan Stern:
> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Matwey V. Kornilov wrote:
> >> I've tried to strategies:
> >>
> >> 1) Use dma_unmap and dma_map inside the handler (I suppose this is
> >> similar to how USB core does when there is no URB_NO_TRANSFER_DMA_MAP)
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >> 2) Use sync_cpu and sync_device inside the handler (and dma_map only
> >> once at memory allocation)
> >>
> >> It is interesting that dma_unmap/dma_map pair leads to the lower
> >> overhead (+1us) than sync_cpu/sync_device (+2us) at x86_64 platform.
> >> At armv7l platform using dma_unmap/dma_map leads to ~50 usec in the
> >> handler, and sync_cpu/sync_device - ~65 usec.
> >>
> >> However, I am not sure is it mandatory to call
> >> dma_sync_single_for_device for FROM_DEVICE direction?
> >
> > According to Documentation/DMA-API-HOWTO.txt, the CPU should not write
> > to a DMA_FROM_DEVICE-mapped area, so dma_sync_single_for_device() is
> > not needed.
>
> Well, I measured the following at armv7l. The handler execution time
> (URB_NO_TRANSFER_DMA_MAP is used for all cases):
>
> 1) coherent DMA: ~3000 usec (pwc is not functional)
> 2) explicit dma_unmap and dma_map in the handler: ~52 usec
> 3) explicit dma_sync_single_for_cpu (no dma_sync_single_for_device): ~56
> usec
I really don't understand why the sync option is slower. Could you please
investigate ? Before doing anything we need to make sure we have a full
understanding of the problem.
> So, I suppose that unfortunately Tomasz suggestion doesn't work. There
> is no performance improvement when dma_sync_single is used.
>
> At x86_64 the following happens:
>
> 1) coherent DMA: ~2 usec
What do you mean by coherent DMA for x86_64 ? Is that usb_alloc_coherent() ?
Could you trace it to see how memory is allocated exactly, and how it's mapped
to the CPU ? I suspect that it will end up in dma_direct_alloc() but I'd like
a confirmation.
> 2) explicit dma_unmap and dma_map in the handler: ~3.5 usec
> 3) explicit dma_sync_single_for_cpu (no dma_sync_single_for_device): ~4 usec
>
> So, whats to do next? Personally, I think that DMA streaming API
> introduces not so great overhead.
It might not be very large, but with USB3 cameras at high resolutions and
framerates, it might still become noticeable. I wouldn't degrade performances
on x86, especially if we can decide which option to use based on the platform
(or perhaps even better based on Kconfig options such as DMA_NONCOHERENT).
> Does anybody happy with turning to streaming DMA or I'll introduce
> module-level switch as Ezequiel suggested?
A module-level switch isn't a good idea, it will just confuse users. We need
to establish a strategy and come up with a good heuristic that can be applied
at compile and/or runtime to automatically decide how to allocate buffers.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-30 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-17 14:36 [PATCH 1/2] Add TRACE_EVENTs in pwc_isoc_handler() Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-06-17 14:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] media: usb: pwc: Don't use coherent DMA buffers for ISO transfer Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-06-18 5:11 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2018-06-18 7:10 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-17 20:10 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2018-07-17 20:51 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-20 10:55 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-07-20 11:22 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-20 11:33 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-07-20 11:57 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-23 17:04 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-23 18:57 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-24 18:56 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-24 20:55 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-25 13:46 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-30 4:14 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-04 8:05 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-30 15:35 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2018-08-04 8:00 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-08-04 14:46 ` Alan Stern
2018-08-05 7:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-05 8:33 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-08-05 8:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 22:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-08-09 2:36 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-09 10:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-07-30 15:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-07-18 12:10 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-19 23:36 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2018-07-20 9:35 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-07-30 15:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-07-30 16:07 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-07-31 6:06 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-18 18:58 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add TRACE_EVENTs in pwc_isoc_handler() Steven Rostedt
2018-06-19 16:23 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-06-19 16:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-06-20 8:05 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-06-20 13:09 ` Steven Rostedt
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