Re: DVICO dual express second tuner?

Re: DVICO dual express second tuner?

[Fritz Katz]

"Paul Kelly" wrote Monday, June 30, 2008: 
>  
>  I got the latest tree and firmware and successfully 
>  brought up a new DVICO dual express and can tune HD cable.
>  
>  According to the marketing fluff this card has two 
>  tuners and can tune either two digital HD streams or one 
>  analog and one HD stream. 
>  
>  Can anyone give me any idea how to make it do that? 
>  Mythtv only identifies tuner 0. 
>  
>  Any information needed will happily be supplied, 
>  please ask.
>  
>  Thanks in advance
>  
>  PK
_________________________

Hello Paul Kelly,

  I don't own one myself, but I can point you in the direction of the HCL (Linux Hardware Compatability List):

http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4012/cat/196

  Maybe info here can help you getting the second tuner working:
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DViCO_FusionHDTV_DVB-T_Dual_Digital_Installation

> The "DViCO FusionHDTV DVB-T Dual Tuner" card has two tuners. 
> One is PCI, the other is USB. You will either need to connect 
> an external USB cable to your card, or use the supplied internal 
> USB cable which connects to your motherboard. This will enable 
> the second tuner and is needed for the remote to function.

Let me know how it works out.

-----------------------
Everyone,

I'm considering getting this el-cheapo card that isn't on the HCL list :

"Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner/Video Capture Card"
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=TV-PCIRC&cat=VID

Reviewers using Windoze at NewEgg gave it bad reviews. But maybe it works better for Linux-TV?  What's your experience?

I'm looking for a card that does analog PAL/NTSC/SECAM -- that also works for Linux-TV.

Regards,
-- Fritz Katz
frtzkatz (at) yahoo.com










      

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Re: DVICO dual express second tuner?

[hermann pitton]

Hi,

Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 15:02 -0700 schrieb Fritz Katz:
> "Paul Kelly" wrote Monday, June 30, 2008: 
> >  
> >  I got the latest tree and firmware and successfully 
> >  brought up a new DVICO dual express and can tune HD cable.
> >  
> >  According to the marketing fluff this card has two 
> >  tuners and can tune either two digital HD streams or one 
> >  analog and one HD stream. 
> >  
> >  Can anyone give me any idea how to make it do that? 
> >  Mythtv only identifies tuner 0. 
> >  
> >  Any information needed will happily be supplied, 
> >  please ask.
> >  
> >  Thanks in advance
> >  
> >  PK
> _________________________
> 
> Hello Paul Kelly,
> 
>   I don't own one myself, but I can point you in the direction of the HCL (Linux Hardware Compatability List):
> 
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4012/cat/196
> 
>   Maybe info here can help you getting the second tuner working:
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DViCO_FusionHDTV_DVB-T_Dual_Digital_Installation
> 
> > The "DViCO FusionHDTV DVB-T Dual Tuner" card has two tuners. 
> > One is PCI, the other is USB. You will either need to connect 
> > an external USB cable to your card, or use the supplied internal 
> > USB cable which connects to your motherboard. This will enable 
> > the second tuner and is needed for the remote to function.
> 
> Let me know how it works out.
> 
> -----------------------
> Everyone,
> 
> I'm considering getting this el-cheapo card that isn't on the HCL list :
> 
> "Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner/Video Capture Card"
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=TV-PCIRC&cat=VID

oh my, this is a historical document.

Are those warnings already valid for all over the US or in California
only?

> 
> Reviewers using Windoze at NewEgg gave it bad reviews. But maybe it works better for Linux-TV?  What's your experience?

It will have US and/or European chips taking most of the remaining
possible profit. But not the newest ones ...

> I'm looking for a card that does analog PAL/NTSC/SECAM -- that also works for Linux-TV.

If you have a good analog cable-tv signal, you might try.
The tuner will do only NTSC and the TV sound is MONO only.

For other inputs are no known restrictions, except you will have to use
the analog audio loop through to the sound card on that saa7130.
No analog to digital audio converters on it.

Cheers,
Hermann

> 
> Regards,
> -- Fritz Katz
> frtzkatz (at) yahoo.com


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Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner -&- Yes, the USA is going digital.

[Fritz Katz]

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, hermann pitton <hermann-pitton@arcor.de> wrote:
> > 
> > "Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner/Video Capture Card"
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=TV-PCIRC&cat=VID
> 
> oh my, this is a historical document.

Found the listing for the card, it does work with Linux-TV (but not well on channel 2):

  http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Sabrent_TV-PCIRC

> 
> Are those warnings already valid for all over the US or in
> California only?

 The entire USA will go digital on Feb. 17, 2009. There will be no analog broadcasts after that. 

 The US Government is giving everyone with old TVs $40 (about 25 Euros) for each TV in their home to buy ATSC converter boxes:

  https://www.dtv2009.gov/

Regards,
-- Fritz Katz



      

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DTV2009 (was Re: Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner -&- Yes, the USA is going digital.)

[Daniel Gimpelevich]

One good thread hijacking deserves another:

Fritz Katz <frtzkatz <at> yahoo.com> writes:

> 
> --- On Mon, 6/30/08, hermann pitton <hermann-pitton <at> arcor.de> wrote:
>> > Are those warnings already valid for all over the US or in
> > California only?
> 
>  The entire USA will go digital on Feb. 17, 2009. There will be no analog
> broadcasts after that. 

There will be no analog OTA broadcasts, but analog cable TV will continue until
2012.

>  The US Government is giving everyone with old TVs $40 (about 25 Euros) for
> each TV in their home to buy ATSC converter boxes:
> 
>   https://www.dtv2009.gov/

That's only up to two TVs per home, and only on specific models of converter.
The $40/€25 must be used within 90 days after it is sent.

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Re: DTV2009 (was Re: Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner -&- Yes, the USA is going digital.)

[Jay R. Ashworth]

On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 07:16:54AM +0000, Daniel Gimpelevich wrote:
> There will be no analog OTA broadcasts, but analog cable TV will
> continue until 2012.

Citation?  I hadn't heard that the FCC had said anything one way or the
other about whether CATV providers had to continue to provide NTSC
analog; some have dropped it already so far as I've heard.

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Re: DTV2009 (was Re: Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner -&- Yes, the USA is going digital.)

[Daniel Gimpelevich]

Jay R. Ashworth <jra <at> baylink.com> writes:

> 
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 07:16:54AM +0000, Daniel Gimpelevich wrote:
> > There will be no analog OTA broadcasts, but analog cable TV will
> > continue until 2012.
> 
> Citation?  I hadn't heard that the FCC had said anything one way or the
> other about whether CATV providers had to continue to provide NTSC
> analog; some have dropped it already so far as I've heard.
> 
> Cheers,

http://www.google.com/search?q=analog+cable+2012
So, how's life under that rock?

I forgot to mention in the previous message that there are a set number of
converter subsidies, and they will be available until they are exhausted.

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Re: Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner -&- Yes, the USA is going digital.

[Alan Cox]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:30:18PM -0700, Fritz Katz wrote:
>  The US Government is giving everyone with old TVs $40 (about 25 Euros) for each TV in their home to buy ATSC converter boxes:
> 
>   https://www.dtv2009.gov/

So stockpile second hand junk TVs ?

Alan

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Re: Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner -&- Yes, the USA is going digital.

[Andy Walls]

On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 04:06 -0400, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:30:18PM -0700, Fritz Katz wrote:
> >  The US Government is giving everyone with old TVs $40 (about 25 Euros) for each TV in their home to buy ATSC converter boxes:
> > 
> >   https://www.dtv2009.gov/
> 
> So stockpile second hand junk TVs ?

Nope with only two per household you can watch for the flood of
PVR-150's and PVR-500's that will show up on ebay.com from the US in
mid-2009 and then again in 2012 when the cable companies move over.

Build up cash reserves for the auctions now....

-Andy

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Re: Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner -&- Yes, the USA is going digital.

[hermann pitton]

Am Dienstag, den 01.07.2008, 04:06 -0400 schrieb Alan Cox:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:30:18PM -0700, Fritz Katz wrote:
> >  The US Government is giving everyone with old TVs $40 (about 25 Euros) for each TV in their home to buy ATSC converter boxes:
> > 
> >   https://www.dtv2009.gov/
> 
> So stockpile second hand junk TVs ?
> 
> Alan
> 

A second thought was also about the enormous lead warnings within the
soldering materials which now appear. Decades without any.

I guess someone must be licking on it every day within salty beach
conditions for years to get in trouble, but for those exposed to the
soldering fumes on that old chips it is likely a very serious issue.

Cheers,
Hermann


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Re: DVICO dual express second tuner?

[Paul Kelly]

Thank you for your help. Unfortunately I had already found this one and
tried it. It was very helpful in getting the card to work even though it
was written to support completely different hardware, USB tuner along
with a PCI tuner on a card.  The Dual express does NOT have a USB tuner,
it's actually two separate identical conexant chips on the board only
one of which the linux driver recognizes. Also the Dual Express does not
use the "bluebird" firmware referred to in that howto, that is strictly
for the USB tuner apparently and since it doesn't have one it ignores
it. I actually had to find and download different firmware that it
requested. Using that firmware I can view and record all of the
unencrypted HD cable channels that are available to me. However, I
cannot tune any non-HD content at all.

Thanks again, it's much appreciated.

PK

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:02 -0700, Fritz Katz wrote:
> "Paul Kelly" wrote Monday, June 30, 2008: 
> >  
> >  I got the latest tree and firmware and successfully 
> >  brought up a new DVICO dual express and can tune HD cable.
> >  
> >  According to the marketing fluff this card has two 
> >  tuners and can tune either two digital HD streams or one 
> >  analog and one HD stream. 
> >  
> >  Can anyone give me any idea how to make it do that? 
> >  Mythtv only identifies tuner 0. 
> >  
> >  Any information needed will happily be supplied, 
> >  please ask.
> >  
> >  Thanks in advance
> >  
> >  PK
> _________________________
> 
> Hello Paul Kelly,
> 
>   I don't own one myself, but I can point you in the direction of the HCL (Linux Hardware Compatability List):
> 
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4012/cat/196
> 
>   Maybe info here can help you getting the second tuner working:
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DViCO_FusionHDTV_DVB-T_Dual_Digital_Installation
> 
> > The "DViCO FusionHDTV DVB-T Dual Tuner" card has two tuners. 
> > One is PCI, the other is USB. You will either need to connect 
> > an external USB cable to your card, or use the supplied internal 
> > USB cable which connects to your motherboard. This will enable 
> > the second tuner and is needed for the remote to function.
> 
> Let me know how it works out.
> 
> -----------------------
> Everyone,
> 
> I'm considering getting this el-cheapo card that isn't on the HCL list :
> 
> "Sabrent Philips7130 PCI TV Tuner/Video Capture Card"
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=TV-PCIRC&cat=VID
> 
> Reviewers using Windoze at NewEgg gave it bad reviews. But maybe it works better for Linux-TV?  What's your experience?
> 
> I'm looking for a card that does analog PAL/NTSC/SECAM -- that also works for Linux-TV.
> 
> Regards,
> -- Fritz Katz
> frtzkatz (at) yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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