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From: Artem Makhutov <artem@makhutov.org>
To: Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org>
Cc: linux-dvb <linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:08:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080830150844.GQ7830@moelleritberatung.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48B8400A.9030409@linuxtv.org>

Hi,

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 02:29:30PM -0400, Steven Toth wrote:
> Regarding the multiproto situation:
> 
> A number of developers, maintainers and users are unhappy with the
> multiproto situation, actually they've been unhappy for a considerable
> amount of time. The linuxtv developer community (to some degree) is seen
> as a joke and a bunch in-fighting people. Multiproto is a great
> demonstration of this. [1] The multiproto project has gone too far, for
> too long and no longer has any credibility in the eyes of many people.

Can you please explain me what you do not like in multiproto?

I can only see the two issues right now:

1. Binary incompatibility

As the DVB-API was not developed to work with advanced modulations like
DVB-S2 an API change is a must. As soon multiproto is in kernel the
distros and application maintainer will patch their applications to work
with multiproto.

2. Multiproto is not in kernel

Manu Abraham has just announced that multiproto can be merged:
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-August/028351.html

I am using multiproto for some time now, and it works great.
It would be a waste of resources if you start a new project instead of
supporting multiproto.

Multiproto is ready, and can be merged in kernel NOW!
What we all want is support for new standards like DVB-S2.
Multiproto has accieved this. So why not using it?

Regards, Artem

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-30 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 18:29 [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support Steven Toth
2008-08-29 19:00 ` Hans Werner
2008-08-29 19:20 ` P. van Gaans
2008-08-29 21:05 ` Grégoire FAVRE
2008-08-30 16:03   ` Udo Richter
2008-08-30  0:04 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-08-30  0:37   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 11:16 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-08-30 14:48   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 20:13   ` [linux-dvb] [vdr] " Johannes Stezenbach
2008-08-31  0:48     ` hermann pitton
2008-08-30 11:16 ` [linux-dvb] " Christian Tramnitz
2008-08-30 14:51   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 12:16 ` ChaosMedia > WebDev
2008-08-30 14:57   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 14:16 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-08-30 15:00   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 15:08 ` Artem Makhutov [this message]
2008-08-30 15:14   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:06     ` Goga777
2008-08-30 17:39       ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:58     ` Manu Abraham
2008-08-30 17:05   ` Manu Abraham
2008-08-30 15:30 ` Janne Grunau
2008-08-30 17:26   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:59 ` Douglas Schilling Landgraf
2008-08-30 17:27   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 17:03 ` Nicolas Will
2008-08-30 17:29   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 17:53 ` Charles Price
2008-08-30 18:03   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-31  3:57     ` Markus Rechberger
2008-08-31 10:32       ` Michael J. Curtis
2008-08-31 21:26       ` Steven Toth
     [not found]       ` <20080831042115.GA21622@kroah.com>
2008-09-05 20:54         ` Aidan Thornton
2008-08-31 14:58 ` Jan Hoogenraad
     [not found] ` <48BAAEC1.5070105@h-i-s.nl>
2008-08-31 21:37   ` Steven Toth
2008-09-01 20:35 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-09-04 14:25   ` Steven Toth
     [not found] ` <200809101340.09702.hftom@free.fr>
     [not found]   ` <48C7CDCF.9090300@hauppauge.com>
2008-09-10 15:10     ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-10 15:33       ` Janne Grunau
2008-09-10 18:39         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 22:46           ` hermann pitton
2008-09-10 16:12       ` Hans Werner
2008-09-10 18:47         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 20:32           ` [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support. (Was: Re: DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support) Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11 13:35             ` [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11 14:22               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 19:31               ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 22:59         ` [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  0:01           ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11  1:00             ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11  1:17               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11  2:59                 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11  4:10                   ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11 12:51                     ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11 21:08                       ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11  4:22               ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  5:44                 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 13:43                 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-11 15:06                   ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  5:48               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-10 18:32       ` Steven Toth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-31 21:05 Igor M. Liplianin
2008-08-31 21:40 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-01 16:38   ` VDR User
2008-09-01 17:24     ` Jelle De Loecker
2008-09-01 20:28       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-09-01 20:34     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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