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* [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
       [not found]             ` <200808311231.13902@centrum.cz>
@ 2008-08-31 10:32               `  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš
       [not found]                 ` <200808311350.17752.liplianin@me.by>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From:  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš @ 2008-08-31 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

hi,

I want to ask you, what drivers i can use for TT S2-3200 with best support for vdr, szap, scan etc.

I'm actually using multiproto drivers http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto with channel lock patch.
I read here about Igor M. Liplianins drivers, but I know anything about it.

Thank you!

Regards Tomas


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* Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
       [not found]                 ` <200808311350.17752.liplianin@me.by>
@ 2008-08-31 11:13                   `  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš
       [not found]                     ` <200808311554.27562.liplianin@me.by>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From:  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš @ 2008-08-31 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb; +Cc: liplianin

OK, I have some freetime at thuersday, so i will try you drivers.

I want to ask you about dvb-apps utilities szap and scan: work they with you drivers?

Or I need some patches.

Regards Tomas

______________________________________________________________
> Od: liplianin@me.by
> Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> CC: &quot; SKOČDOPOLE  Tomáš&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
> Datum: 31.08.2008 12:50
> Předmět: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
>
>В сообщении от 31 August 2008 13:32:33 SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš написал(а):
>> hi,
>>
>> I want to ask you, what drivers i can use for TT S2-3200 with best support
>> for vdr, szap, scan etc.
>>
>> I'm actually using multiproto drivers http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto with
>> channel lock patch. I read here about Igor M. Liplianins drivers, but I
>> know anything about it.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Regards Tomas
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> linux-dvb mailing list
>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
>Hi,
>
>You can try it.
>http://liplianindvb.sourceforge.net/hg/
>Actually I ask you and other peoples to feedback, whether it works properly, 
>or not.
>Best Regards
> 
>Igor M. Liplianin
>


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* Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
@ 2008-08-31 20:22 Igor M. Liplianin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Igor M. Liplianin @ 2008-08-31 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

п▓ я│п╬п╬п╠я┴п╣п╫п╦п╦ п╬я┌ 31 August 2008 13:32:33 SKOд▄DOPOLE Tomц║е║ 
п╫п╟п©п╦я│п╟п╩(п╟):
> hi,
>
> I want to ask you, what drivers i can use for TT S2-3200 with best support
> for vdr, szap, scan etc.
>
> I'm actually using multiproto drivers http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto with
> channel lock patch. I read here about Igor M. Liplianins drivers, but I
> know anything about it.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Regards Tomas
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-dvb mailing list
> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
Hi,

You can try it.
http://liplianindvb.sourceforge.net/hg/
Actually I ask you and other peoples to feedback, whether it works properly, 
or not.
Best Regards
 
Igor M. Liplianin


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* Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
@ 2008-08-31 20:25 Igor M. Liplianin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Igor M. Liplianin @ 2008-08-31 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

п▓ я│п╬п╬п╠я┴п╣п╫п╦п╦ п╬я┌ 31 August 2008 14:13:06 SKOд▄DOPOLE Tomц║е║ 
п╫п╟п©п╦я│п╟п╩(п╟):
> OK, I have some freetime at thuersday, so i will try you drivers.
>
> I want to ask you about dvb-apps utilities szap and scan: work they with
> you drivers?
>
> Or I need some patches.
>
> Regards Tomas
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> > Od: liplianin@me.by
> > Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> > CC: &quot; SKOп╢Б√└DOPOLE  Tomя├Б∙▒п╣Б∙▒&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
> > Datum: 31.08.2008 12:50
> > Pп╣Б┴╔edmп╢Б▄║t: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
> >
> >п©Б√⌠ я▐Б■┌п©Б∙╛п©Б∙╛п©Б∙═я▐Б■╢п©Б∙ёп©Б∙╚п©Б∙╕п©Б∙╕ п©Б∙╛я▐Б■▄ 31 August 
2008 13:32:33 SKOп╢Б√└DOPOLE Tomя├Б∙▒п╣Б∙▒ 
п©Б∙╚п©Б∙÷п©б╘п©Б∙╕я▐Б■┌п©Б∙÷п©Б∙╘(п©Б∙÷):
> >> hi,
> >>
> >> I want to ask you, what drivers i can use for TT S2-3200 with best
> >> support for vdr, szap, scan etc.
> >>
> >> I'm actually using multiproto drivers http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto with
> >> channel lock patch. I read here about Igor M. Liplianins drivers, but I
> >> know anything about it.
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >> Regards Tomas
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> linux-dvb mailing list
> >> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >You can try it.
> >http://liplianindvb.sourceforge.net/hg/
> >Actually I ask you and other peoples to feedback, whether it works
> > properly, or not.
> >Best Regards
> >
> >Igor M. Liplianin
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-dvb mailing list
> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb

Regular szap & scan works.

Best Regards
 
Igor M. Liplianin

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* Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
       [not found]                     ` <200808311554.27562.liplianin@me.by>
@ 2008-09-01 11:51                       `  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš
  2008-09-01 14:40                         ` Igor M. Liplianin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From:  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš @ 2008-09-01 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: liplianin; +Cc: linux-dvb

Regular scan works? But I mean scan utility doesnt support DVB-S2. For example FEC 9/10...

Or what i can use for scan DVB-S2 channels?

Regards Tomas

______________________________________________________________
> Od: liplianin@me.by
> Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> CC: &quot; SKOČDOPOLE  Tomáš&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
> Datum: 31.08.2008 14:54
> Předmět: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
>
>В сообщении от 31 August 2008 14:13:06 SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš написал(а):
>> OK, I have some freetime at thuersday, so i will try you drivers.
>>
>> I want to ask you about dvb-apps utilities szap and scan: work they with
>> you drivers?
>>
>> Or I need some patches.
>>
>> Regards Tomas
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>> > Od: liplianin@me.by
>> > Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> > CC: &quot; SKOд▄DOPOLE  Tomц║е║&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
>> > Datum: 31.08.2008 12:50
>> > Pе≥edmд⌡t: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
>> >
>> >п▓ я│п╬п╬п╠я┴п╣п╫п╦п╦ п╬я┌ 31 August 2008 13:32:33 SKOд▄DOPOLE Tomц║е║ 
>п╫п╟п©п╦я│п╟п╩(п╟):
>> >> hi,
>> >>
>> >> I want to ask you, what drivers i can use for TT S2-3200 with best
>> >> support for vdr, szap, scan etc.
>> >>
>> >> I'm actually using multiproto drivers http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto with
>> >> channel lock patch. I read here about Igor M. Liplianins drivers, but I
>> >> know anything about it.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you!
>> >>
>> >> Regards Tomas
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> linux-dvb mailing list
>> >> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
>> >
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >You can try it.
>> >http://liplianindvb.sourceforge.net/hg/
>> >Actually I ask you and other peoples to feedback, whether it works
>> > properly, or not.
>> >Best Regards
>> >
>> >Igor M. Liplianin
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> linux-dvb mailing list
>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
>
>Regular szap & scan works.
>
>Best Regards
> 
>Igor M. Liplianin
>


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* Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
  2008-09-01 11:51                       `  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš
@ 2008-09-01 14:40                         ` Igor M. Liplianin
       [not found]                           ` <200809011703.19768@centrum.cz>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Igor M. Liplianin @ 2008-09-01 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

Now in my priorities list is scan2 and channelscan(or reelchannelscan) for 
VDR-1.7.0

Starting point
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-June/026423.html

Best Regards

Igor

В сообщении от 1 September 2008 14:51:08 SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš написал(а):
> Regular scan works? But I mean scan utility doesnt support DVB-S2. For
> example FEC 9/10...
>
> Or what i can use for scan DVB-S2 channels?
>
> Regards Tomas
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> > Od: liplianin@me.by
> > Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> > CC: &quot; SKOд▄DOPOLE  Tomц║е║&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
> > Datum: 31.08.2008 14:54
> > Pе≥edmд⌡t: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
> >
> >п▓ я│п╬п╬п╠я┴п╣п╫п╦п╦ п╬я┌ 31 August 2008 14:13:06 SKOд▄DOPOLE Tomц║е║ 
п╫п╟п©п╦я│п╟п╩(п╟):
> >> OK, I have some freetime at thuersday, so i will try you drivers.
> >>
> >> I want to ask you about dvb-apps utilities szap and scan: work they with
> >> you drivers?
> >>
> >> Or I need some patches.
> >>
> >> Regards Tomas
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> > Od: liplianin@me.by
> >> > Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> >> > CC: &quot; SKOп╢Б√└DOPOLE  Tomя├Б∙▒п╣Б∙▒&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
> >> > Datum: 31.08.2008 12:50
> >> > Pп╣Б┴╔edmп╢Б▄║t: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
> >> >
> >> >п©Б√⌠ я▐Б■┌п©Б∙╛п©Б∙╛п©Б∙═я▐Б■╢п©Б∙ёп©Б∙╚п©Б∙╕п©Б∙╕ п©Б∙╛я▐Б■▄ 31
> >> > August 2008 13:32:33 SKOп╢Б√└DOPOLE Tomя├Б∙▒п╣Б∙▒
> >
> >п©Б∙╚п©Б∙÷п©б╘п©Б∙╕я▐Б■┌п©Б∙÷п©Б∙╘(п©Б∙÷):
> >> >> hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I want to ask you, what drivers i can use for TT S2-3200 with best
> >> >> support for vdr, szap, scan etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm actually using multiproto drivers http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto
> >> >> with channel lock patch. I read here about Igor M. Liplianins
> >> >> drivers, but I know anything about it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you!
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards Tomas
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> linux-dvb mailing list
> >> >> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> >> >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
> >> >
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >You can try it.
> >> >http://liplianindvb.sourceforge.net/hg/
> >> >Actually I ask you and other peoples to feedback, whether it works
> >> > properly, or not.
> >> >Best Regards
> >> >
> >> >Igor M. Liplianin
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> linux-dvb mailing list
> >> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
> >
> >Regular szap & scan works.
> >
> >Best Regards
> >
> >Igor M. Liplianin
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-dvb mailing list
> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
_______________________________________________
linux-dvb mailing list
linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb

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* Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
       [not found]                             ` <200809011705.15088@centrum.cz>
@ 2008-09-01 15:05                               `  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From:  SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš @ 2008-09-01 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: liplianin, linux-dvb

OK, this is super!

I can help with testing...

Best regards, 
Tomas

______________________________________________________________
> Od: liplianin@tut.by
> Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> CC: &quot; SKOČDOPOLE  Tomáš&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
> Datum: 01.09.2008 16:40
> Předmět: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
>
>Now in my priorities list is scan2 and channelscan(or reelchannelscan) for 
>VDR-1.7.0
>
>Starting point
>http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-June/026423.html
>
>Best Regards
>
>Igor
>
>В сообщении от 1 September 2008 14:51:08 SKOČDOPOLE Tomáš написал(а):
>> Regular scan works? But I mean scan utility doesnt support DVB-S2. For
>> example FEC 9/10...
>>
>> Or what i can use for scan DVB-S2 channels?
>>
>> Regards Tomas
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>> > Od: liplianin@me.by
>> > Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> > CC: &quot; SKOд▄DOPOLE  Tomц║е║&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
>> > Datum: 31.08.2008 14:54
>> > Pе≥edmд⌡t: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
>> >
>> >п▓ я│п╬п╬п╠я┴п╣п╫п╦п╦ п╬я┌ 31 August 2008 14:13:06 SKOд▄DOPOLE Tomц║е║ 
>п╫п╟п©п╦я│п╟п╩(п╟):
>> >> OK, I have some freetime at thuersday, so i will try you drivers.
>> >>
>> >> I want to ask you about dvb-apps utilities szap and scan: work they with
>> >> you drivers?
>> >>
>> >> Or I need some patches.
>> >>
>> >> Regards Tomas
>> >>
>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>> >>
>> >> > Od: liplianin@me.by
>> >> > Komu: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> >> > CC: &quot; SKOп╢Б√└DOPOLE  Tomя├Б∙▒п╣Б∙▒&quot; <hoppik@centrum.cz>
>> >> > Datum: 31.08.2008 12:50
>> >> > Pп╣Б┴╔edmп╢Б▄║t: Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
>> >> >
>> >> >п©Б√⌠ я▐Б■┌п©Б∙╛п©Б∙╛п©Б∙═я▐Б■╢п©Б∙ёп©Б∙╚п©Б∙╕п©Б∙╕ п©Б∙╛я▐Б■▄ 31
>> >> > August 2008 13:32:33 SKOп╢Б√└DOPOLE Tomя├Б∙▒п╣Б∙▒
>> >
>> >п©Б∙╚п©Б∙÷п©б╘п©Б∙╕я▐Б■┌п©Б∙÷п©Б∙╘(п©Б∙÷):
>> >> >> hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I want to ask you, what drivers i can use for TT S2-3200 with best
>> >> >> support for vdr, szap, scan etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm actually using multiproto drivers http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto
>> >> >> with channel lock patch. I read here about Igor M. Liplianins
>> >> >> drivers, but I know anything about it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards Tomas
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> linux-dvb mailing list
>> >> >> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> >> >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
>> >> >
>> >> >Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> >You can try it.
>> >> >http://liplianindvb.sourceforge.net/hg/
>> >> >Actually I ask you and other peoples to feedback, whether it works
>> >> > properly, or not.
>> >> >Best Regards
>> >> >
>> >> >Igor M. Liplianin
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> linux-dvb mailing list
>> >> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
>> >
>> >Regular szap & scan works.
>> >
>> >Best Regards
>> >
>> >Igor M. Liplianin
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> linux-dvb mailing list
>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
>





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* [linux-dvb]  Drivers for TT S2-3200
@ 2008-09-04 13:27 Newsy Paper
  2008-09-04 16:22 ` Meysam Hariri
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Newsy Paper @ 2008-09-04 13:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

@Igor: I tried your new driver. My first impression is that it works stable with me TT S2-3200 so thx for providing a driver that's uptodate.

I found 3 bugs:
1) When I switch to Nilesat (this is the weakest satellite; I get a weak signal, but still no dropouts and pixelation). When I switch from one transponder to another on that satellite I get no more signal lock on the chosen transponder. I have to kill and restart vdr to get signal again. It doesn't depend on the transponder frequency it occours with all transponders on nilesat (while for others it could be another satellite that is so weak to cause such switching problems). The problem already occoured with multiproto + channel lock patch.

2) There's still this bug with DVB-S2 SR 30000 3/4 I don't know if you already expierenced this bug but it only occours with linux drivers. In Windows it's working.

3) no signal strengh on femon, but I think you already know this.

kind regards


Newsy

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* Re: [linux-dvb] Drivers for TT S2-3200
  2008-09-04 13:27 Newsy Paper
@ 2008-09-04 16:22 ` Meysam Hariri
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Meysam Hariri @ 2008-09-04 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: newspaperman_germany, linux-dvb


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May i add some bugs to your list:

4) For dvb-s channels whenever i start szap on a channel, it may lock or not
lock by chance. i'll have to exit and run szap multiple times to get lock.
some ppl say setting a slightly lower symbrate or frequency for the channel
will fix the problem. but this should be fixed within the driver.

the problem with some dvbs2 channels seems to be also from the 8psk
modulation and not the symbolrate/fec combination itself. there are 8psk
channels on lower symbolrates with different fec it can't get lock.

Isn't that from the lack of support in the driver for 8psk? i roughly looked
at the sources and there seems to be more on qpsk where there is no mention
of 8psk for instance on switch loops.

Regards,


On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Newsy Paper
<newspaperman_germany@yahoo.com>wrote:

> @Igor: I tried your new driver. My first impression is that it works stable
> with me TT S2-3200 so thx for providing a driver that's uptodate.
>
> I found 3 bugs:
> 1) When I switch to Nilesat (this is the weakest satellite; I get a weak
> signal, but still no dropouts and pixelation). When I switch from one
> transponder to another on that satellite I get no more signal lock on the
> chosen transponder. I have to kill and restart vdr to get signal again. It
> doesn't depend on the transponder frequency it occours with all transponders
> on nilesat (while for others it could be another satellite that is so weak
> to cause such switching problems). The problem already occoured with
> multiproto + channel lock patch.
>
> 2) There's still this bug with DVB-S2 SR 30000 3/4 I don't know if you
> already expierenced this bug but it only occours with linux drivers. In
> Windows it's working.
>
> 3) no signal strengh on femon, but I think you already know this.
>
> kind regards
>
>
> Newsy
>
> __________________________________________________
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