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From: Christophe Thommeret <hftom@free.fr>
To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
Subject: [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:35:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200809111535.19315.hftom@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200809102232.26884.hftom@free.fr>

Hi all,

( Please don't mix this thread with the "DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future 
modulation support" thread. )

Summary:

Some devices provide several tuners, even of different types.
So called "Dual" or "Twin" tuners can be used at the same time.
Some others (like HVR4000) can't be used at the same time.

My initial question was: How could an application know that 2 (or more) tuners 
are exclusive (when one is used the other(s) is(are) not free.)

I suggested the following:
Since actually all multiple tuners drivers expose several fontend0 in separate 
adapters, maybe a solution for exclusive tuners could be to have :
- adapter0/frontend0 -> S/S2 tuner
- adapter0/frontend1 -> T tuner
so, an application could assume that these tuners are exclusive.

Janne Grunau acked the idea and said that an experimental driver for HVR4000 
is already doing this.

This was confirmed by Steven Toth:
"Correct, frontend1, demux1, dvr1 etc. All on the same adapter. The 
driver and multi-frontend patches manage exclusive access to the single 
internal resource."
	
Andreas Oberritter said:
"This way is used on dual and quad tuner Dreambox models." (non exclusive 
tuners).
"How about dropping demux1 and dvr1 for this adapter (exclusive tuners), since 
they don't create any benefit? IMHO the number of demux devices should always 
equal the number of simultaneously usable transport stream inputs."

Uri Shkolnik said:
"Some of the hardware devices which using our chipset have two tuners per 
instance, and should expose 1-2 tuners with 0-2 demux (TS), since not all DTV 
standard are TS based, and when they are (TS based), it depends when you are 
using two given tuners together (diversity  mode, same content) or each one 
is used separately (different frequency and modulation, different content, 
etc.)."



So, here are my questions:

@Steven Toth:
What do you think of Andreas' suggestion? Do you think it could be done that 
way for HVR4000 (and 3000?) ?

@Uri Shkolnik:
Do you mean that non-TS based standards don't make use of multiplexing at all?


-- 
Christophe Thommeret


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-11 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 18:29 [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support Steven Toth
2008-08-29 19:00 ` Hans Werner
2008-08-29 19:20 ` P. van Gaans
2008-08-29 21:05 ` Grégoire FAVRE
2008-08-30 16:03   ` Udo Richter
2008-08-30  0:04 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-08-30  0:37   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 11:16 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-08-30 14:48   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 20:13   ` [linux-dvb] [vdr] " Johannes Stezenbach
2008-08-31  0:48     ` hermann pitton
2008-08-30 11:16 ` [linux-dvb] " Christian Tramnitz
2008-08-30 14:51   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 12:16 ` ChaosMedia > WebDev
2008-08-30 14:57   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 14:16 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-08-30 15:00   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 15:08 ` Artem Makhutov
2008-08-30 15:14   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:06     ` Goga777
2008-08-30 17:39       ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:58     ` Manu Abraham
2008-08-30 17:05   ` Manu Abraham
2008-08-30 15:30 ` Janne Grunau
2008-08-30 17:26   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:59 ` Douglas Schilling Landgraf
2008-08-30 17:27   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 17:03 ` Nicolas Will
2008-08-30 17:29   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 17:53 ` Charles Price
2008-08-30 18:03   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-31  3:57     ` Markus Rechberger
2008-08-31 10:32       ` Michael J. Curtis
2008-08-31 21:26       ` Steven Toth
     [not found]       ` <20080831042115.GA21622@kroah.com>
2008-09-05 20:54         ` Aidan Thornton
2008-08-31 14:58 ` Jan Hoogenraad
     [not found] ` <48BAAEC1.5070105@h-i-s.nl>
2008-08-31 21:37   ` Steven Toth
2008-09-01 20:35 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-09-04 14:25   ` Steven Toth
     [not found] ` <200809101340.09702.hftom@free.fr>
     [not found]   ` <48C7CDCF.9090300@hauppauge.com>
2008-09-10 15:10     ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-10 15:33       ` Janne Grunau
2008-09-10 18:39         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 22:46           ` hermann pitton
2008-09-10 16:12       ` Hans Werner
2008-09-10 18:47         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 20:32           ` [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support. (Was: Re: DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support) Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11 13:35             ` Christophe Thommeret [this message]
2008-09-11 14:22               ` [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 19:31               ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 22:59         ` [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  0:01           ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11  1:00             ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11  1:17               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11  2:59                 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11  4:10                   ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11 12:51                     ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11 21:08                       ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11  4:22               ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  5:44                 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 13:43                 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-11 15:06                   ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  5:48               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-10 18:32       ` Steven Toth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-09-11 14:21 [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11 15:16 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11 17:57   ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 19:36     ` Andreas Oberritter

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