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From: sinter <sinter.mann@gmx.de>
To: "Michael Krufky" <mkrufky@linuxtv.org>, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] S2API drivers sync
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:08:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200812192208.42849.sinter.mann@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37219a840812191231i775a1769x8705b644cfb21bab@mail.gmail.com>

Am Friday 19 December 2008 21:31:08 schrieben Sie:
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Markus Rechberger
>
> <mrechberger@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:58 PM, sinter <sinter.mann@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> Am Friday 19 December 2008 20:29:52 schrieben Sie:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:43 PM, sinter <sinter.mann@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>> > Am Freitag 19 Dezember 2008 18:01:40 schrieb gimli:
> >>> >> The DVB-S2 stuff smells all like a big bullshit.
> >>> >> In the first step a big hurry to get S2API in
> >>> >> the mainline kernel and now nothing at all from
> >>> >> the DVB-S2 front. This is a completly big mess
> >>> >> in my eyes.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> cu
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Edgar (gimli) Hucek
> >>> >>
> >>> >> P.S.: Childish political games which are played on
> >>> >> the shoulders of the users. Hurray, well done.
> >>> >
> >>> > Yes, Edgar, exactly: This is what the name Manu A. stands for since
> >>> > this guy was recruited as a DVB "maintainer" by Johannes Stezenbach:
> >>> >
> >>> > Kiddish political games which are played on the shoulders of the
> >>> > users. Also those kiddish games are ideal to hide the discovery of
> >>> > one's own personal mediocrity / incapability in coding issues.
> >>> >
> >>> > There are people who ask themselves why Manu A. still owes a
> >>> > repository at linuxtv.org. I guess this runs under "utilitarianism of
> >>> > human beings".
> >>> >
> >>> > And also: a huge mass of (inactive) nominal members looks nice for a
> >>> > career at redhat.com, doesn't it?
> >>>
> >>> This looks like a respect email.
> >>
> >> No, not in any context at all!
> >> It's you who ignores the sarcasm behind my words!
> >> Just use your brain, austrian!
> >>
> >>> Best would have been if Manu wouldn't
> >>> have had released
> >>> any code and would just have forwarded his code to his friends they
> >>> wouldn't have complained and
> >>> even probably would have paid some beer and invited him for some
> >>> parties.
> >>
> >> YES! This would have made everything easier: NOT to have persons like
> >> YOU and Manu A. around here, as nobody needs anti-team working
> >> big-mouth-nut-shuts here.
> >>
> >>> It takes time to get documentation for a certain chip, to get the
> >>> agreement for it and finally to write
> >>> a driver for it.
> >>
> >> Yesno! It also takes social behaviour to maintain written code, and if
> >> someone does not respect social behaviour but claims to be chief DVB
> >> maintainer at the same time then this indian person called A. is counter
> >> productive / ridiculous!
> >> And that's all about him.
> >> We gotta get rid of people like you, Markus, and Manu A. too because you
> >> two are like an incarnation of the living copounter productive pest,
> >> arenn't you?
> >>
> >>> As user it's certainly easier to complain about all
> >>> that and think that everything's free.
> >>> Even google is playing around with the content of the mails I send
> >>> here and earning money by doing
> >>> statistics out of that.
> >>
> >> Stop ranting, Austrian! Shut up man!!!!
> >
> > ah this is Uwe, welcome back.
>
> Please stop with the flames... this is ridiculous.
>
> It's true that not everybody gets along well, but it is also true that
> both of the developers that you've mentioned here are highly
> intelligent and really know how to do what they do.
>
> This is open-source development.  There is no reason to tell somebody
> to STOP working for free.
>
> These flames are the reason why the active developers that DO get
> stuff done have stopped following the mailing lists.
>
> I have my gmail set to forward mails to me that I'll find interesting,
> based on keywords and filters.  Every once in a while, I see a flame
> like this and it reminds me why I'd rather write new code than read
> about people complaining.
>
> Get over it.  The longer this keeps up, the more of an audience will
> be lost.  The amount of people that read this list is dwindling every
> day.
>
> Next time you want to flame, think twice.  You might think that you're
> making a statement, but all you're doing is pushing the developers
> away from the mailing lists.
>
> (all of the above is directed to the flamers) ...
>
> side note:
>
> Markus, you and I should definitely have a beer sometime.  I think
> we'd really get along in person.  Emails and chat suck -- you will
> never get a feel for personality that way.  Let me know next time
> you're in New York City.  I have never been to Europe, but I do hope
> to visit one day.
>
> It's snowing here in New York -- I plan to write code all weekend.
> Y'all should keep your pants on, and maybe you'll realize that there
> really is nothing to complain about.  Free work == no bitching
> allowed!
>
> /rant
>
> -Mike

Manu Abraham??????
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-19 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-18 18:04 [linux-dvb] S2API drivers sync gimli
2008-12-19 16:52 ` Oleg Roitburd
2008-12-19 17:01   ` gimli
2008-12-19 17:42     ` VDR User
2008-12-19 18:43     ` sinter
2008-12-19 19:29       ` Markus Rechberger
2008-12-19 19:58         ` sinter
2008-12-19 20:11           ` Markus Rechberger
2008-12-19 20:31             ` Michael Krufky
2008-12-19 20:47               ` Devin Heitmueller
2008-12-19 21:08                 ` Nicolas Will
2008-12-19 22:07                   ` [linux-dvb] Adding info to the wiki, Was: " Jos Hoekstra
2008-12-19 22:25                     ` Antti Palosaari
2008-12-19 22:39                     ` Nicolas Will
2008-12-19 22:31                   ` [linux-dvb] " Devin Heitmueller
2008-12-19 21:08               ` sinter [this message]
2008-12-19 23:53             ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-12-19 21:03           ` user.vdr
2008-12-20  9:54       ` gimli
2008-12-29 10:52         ` Jelle De Loecker

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