From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: kilgota@banach.math.auburn.edu
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
urishk@yahoo.com, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:04:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090221210428.15d96814@hyperion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0902211008360.9653@banach.math.auburn.edu>
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:42:17 -0600 (CST), kilgota@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
> This is not exactly what I was trying to say. I'll try again.
>
> 1. Anyone who would call himself a developer will run quite recent kernels
> without being forced to do so, voluntarily and with pleasure.
>
> 2. Sometimes the kernel which just came out has a bug. The bug can
> interfere with current work even though it is from another kernel
> subsystem. I mentioned a recent example. The problem was in the basic USB
> area. It specifically related to devices running on alt0 and using a bulk
> endpoint. I was trying to support a camera that streams on alt0 over the
> bulk endpoint. Said bug seriously interfered with progress. Who would say
> that everyone should simultaneously use the same tree, suggests that
> everyone should simultaneously experience the same set of bugs.
>
> 3. Because of (2) and for other obvious reasons, the ability to develop
> a kernel subsystem semi-independently of the latest git tree is a clever
> and good thing. Why give it up and tie oneself to just one git tree?
>
> 4. If it were my decision, I probably would not tie myself in knots if
> something new would "break" a kernel which is more than a couple of
> versions behind. Right now, this would probably mean I would not care at
> all what happened to people running 2.6.24.x or older. Furthermore, if
> what was "broken" was due to a bug in the old kernel, too bad.
>
> 5. So I would continue to allow flexibility but I would not become
> extremely concerned if a kernel more than a couple of versions behind
> would start to have problems. I would try to be nice and let people know,
> unless they started to shout at me, at which point I would start to
> ignore them.
>
> Probably all of the above would please nobody, and it is a good that I am
> not in charge of anything.
Actually, it would totally please me :)
--
Jean Delvare
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-21 20:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-18 8:55 Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18 10:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-18 13:01 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-20 3:57 ` hermann pitton
2009-02-20 6:53 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-20 9:49 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-20 10:39 ` hermann pitton
2009-02-21 0:23 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 1:12 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 2:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 2:40 ` hermann pitton
2009-02-21 7:28 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 11:58 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 12:45 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 12:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 16:20 ` hermann pitton
2009-02-21 14:26 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-21 12:06 ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-21 13:01 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 13:11 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-21 13:28 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 13:56 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-21 13:58 ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-22 10:09 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-21 1:30 ` kilgota
2009-02-21 2:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 16:42 ` kilgota
2009-02-21 20:04 ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2009-02-21 9:32 ` Jean Delvare
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-18 10:54 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18 11:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-17 13:23 Jean Delvare
2009-02-17 22:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-02-17 23:06 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 11:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 12:01 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18 0:08 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-18 0:18 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18 2:08 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-18 7:36 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18 8:30 ` Uri Shkolnik
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