From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from smtp27.orange.fr ([80.12.242.96]:2435 "EHLO smtp27.orange.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755387Ab0EROrt convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 May 2010 10:47:49 -0400 From: Christophe Thommeret To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] new DVB-T initial tuning for fr-nantes Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:47:47 +0200 References: <4BF290A2.1020904@free.fr> <201005181639.56368.hftom@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <201005181639.56368.hftom@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201005181647.47806.hftom@free.fr> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Le mardi 18 mai 2010 16:39:56, Christophe Thommeret a écrit : > Le mardi 18 mai 2010 16:25:56, BOUWSMA Barry a écrit : > > On wto (wtorek) 18.maj (maj) 2010, 15:05:00, matpic wrote: > > > > Salut! > > > > > hello > > > As from today (18/05/2010) there is new frequency since analogic signal > > > is stopped and is now only numeric. > > > guard-interval has to be set to AUTO or scan find anything > > > > > > (1/32, 1/16, 1/8 ,1/4 doesn't work) > > > > I do not have the CSA data at hand, but I understand that > > presently use is made of single transmitter sites, in a MFN > > (Multi-Frequency Network) and thus a guard interval of 1/32 should > > be correct. > > > > (I understand though that some filler transmitters may be in > > planning so that a small SFN may be put in service, but I am > > not clear as to these details... I must research this.) > > > > > #same frequency + offset 167000000 for some hardware DVB-T tuner > > > > It was my understanding that the different offsets above or > > below the nominal centre frequency is a result of mixed digital > > and legacy analogue services co-broadcasting, in order to avoid > > interference with adjacent channels. > > > > So I am wondering whether, in the absence of local analogue > > services, this offset is no longer employed? > > > > I am afraid that I am not following the conversion to TNT so > > closely to know if a whole geographic region, in this case the > > Loire, is having the remaining analogue services shut down all > > at once, or if it is being done on a site-by-site basis, with > > the potential for interference to a more remote but still > > operational analogue transmitter. > > > > In any case, all but one of the new frequencies appear to be > > very different from the ones previously used before today. > > > > > > Merci, for reporting this change! > > > > barry bouwsma > > All analogic services are all closed at once. > I guess the "offset" is there to help some (buggy?) devices, like cinergy > T2, not to reflect a real frequency offset. BTW, analogic shut down has happened (18 may, 00:00) for the entire french region "Pays de Loire", so a lot of transmitters are affected. "fr-Laval" now uses these freqs: 714000000 570000000 770000000 762000000 650000000 786000000 -- Christophe Thommeret