[linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

hi,
i have a happauge HVR4000 and all works fine, analogue TV and DVB-S was
tested by me so, all would be fine except the fact, that there is
DVB-S2 support noted on the wiki
http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-4000 site.

so basically my question is, what makes you think, that HVR4000 is able
to play DVB-S2 streams when it doesn't?!

so I have tried this out, run w_scan which printed me also all the
DVB-S2 channels out and provided me a tuning list (channels.conf) and
then I tried to tune in w/ "szap-s2 -S 1 -c ~/.mplayer/channels.conf
ZDFHD"

the output is:
--------------
zapping to 1 'ZDFHD':
delivery DVB-S2, modulation 8PSK (i tried QPSK as well)
sat 0, frequency 11361 MHz H, symbolrate 22000000, coderate auto,
rolloff 0.35 vpid 0x17de, apid 0x17e8, sid 0x2b66
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
status 01 | signal dbc0 | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | 
status 03 | signal db40 | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | 
status 01 | signal dbc0 | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | 
status 01 | signal dbc0 | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | 
--------------

so, and that is basically the same as w/ my old NOVA-S CL.

the fact, that he is not able to get a lock tells me, that there is no
DVB-S2 kind of thing on this HVR4000 and I bought my card for nothing,
except that now I have a newer card, w/ FM and analog TV, maybe DVB-T
as well, but i tested that one as well and it doesn't work as well, so
I wouldn't say that that card is able to do DVB-T as well.

there are USB sticks, like my VOLAR-HD or my Equinox Tube, that ones do
DVB-T really, but not this HVR4000, so it is a 3in1 card w/ DVB-S,
analog TV and FM, at best, as long as I don't know if FM works.

here some data (first lspci -v and then dmesg):

05:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc.
CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) Subsystem: Hauppauge
computer works Inc. WinTV HVR-4000-HD Flags: bus master, medium devsel,
latency 32, IRQ 18 Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=16M] Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
	Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
	Kernel driver in use: cx8800
	Kernel modules: cx8800

05:02.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI
Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05) Subsystem: Hauppauge
computer works Inc. Device 6902 Flags: bus master, medium devsel,
latency 32, IRQ 18 Memory at fb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=16M] Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
	Kernel driver in use: cx88_audio
	Kernel modules: cx88-alsa

05:02.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI
Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05) Subsystem: Hauppauge
computer works Inc. WinTV HVR-4000-HD Flags: bus master, medium devsel,
latency 32, IRQ 18 Memory at fa000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=16M] Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
	Kernel driver in use: cx88-mpeg driver manager
	Kernel modules: cx8802

05:02.4 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI
Video and Audio Decoder [IR Port] (rev 05) Subsystem: Hauppauge
computer works Inc. WinTV HVR-4000-HD Flags: bus master, medium devsel,
latency 32, IRQ 7 Memory at f9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=16M] Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload
(dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)... cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:05:02.2: firmware:
requesting dvb-fe-cx24116.fw cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for
firmware upload(2)... cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.26.90.0
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload
(dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)... cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:05:02.2: firmware:
requesting dvb-fe-cx24116.fw cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for
firmware upload(2)... cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.26.90.0
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload
(dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)... cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:05:02.2: firmware:
requesting dvb-fe-cx24116.fw cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for
firmware upload(2)... cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.26.90.0
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload
(dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)... cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:05:02.2: firmware:
requesting dvb-fe-cx24116.fw cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for
firmware upload(2)... cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.26.90.0
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload
(dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)... cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:05:02.2: firmware:
requesting dvb-fe-cx24116.fw cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for
firmware upload(2)... cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.26.90.0
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload
(dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)... cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:05:02.2: firmware:
requesting dvb-fe-cx24116.fw cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for
firmware upload(2)... cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.26.90.0
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload
(dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)... cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:05:02.2: firmware:
requesting dvb-fe-cx24116.fw cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for
firmware upload(2)... cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.26.90.0
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete

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Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Gregoire Favre]

On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:03:11AM +0200, Lars Schotte wrote:
> hi,
> i have a happauge HVR4000 and all works fine, analogue TV and DVB-S was
> tested by me so, all would be fine except the fact, that there is
> DVB-S2 support noted on the wiki
> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-4000 site.
> 
> so basically my question is, what makes you think, that HVR4000 is able
> to play DVB-S2 streams when it doesn't?!

I use it for DVB-S2 under vdr without problem, and I tested (a long time
ago) DVB-T under kaffeine (I don't have KDE installed at the moment).

So the card is definitely able to do DVB-S2 or DVB-T (the card can't do
both simultaneously).
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Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

yes? thats a shame! how you can use it under VDR, when it doesnt even
tune in with szap-s2? please provide a better look at how you managed
to get this card working and it would be helpful to provide some
szap-s2 output on a HD / DVB-S2 channel, so that I can see if it tunes
in to you.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:43:02 +0200
Gregoire Favre <gregoire.favre@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:03:11AM +0200, Lars Schotte wrote:
> > hi,
> > i have a happauge HVR4000 and all works fine, analogue TV and DVB-S
> > was tested by me so, all would be fine except the fact, that there
> > is DVB-S2 support noted on the wiki
> > http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-4000 site.
> > 
> > so basically my question is, what makes you think, that HVR4000 is
> > able to play DVB-S2 streams when it doesn't?!
> 
> I use it for DVB-S2 under vdr without problem, and I tested (a long
> time ago) DVB-T under kaffeine (I don't have KDE installed at the
> moment).
> 
> So the card is definitely able to do DVB-S2 or DVB-T (the card can't
> do both simultaneously).

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Gregoire Favre]

On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:39:46PM +0200, Lars Schotte wrote:

Sorry, I have no time to loose in szap or other clones, when S2-API was
introduced I took lot of time in order to have a working setup, but now,
VDR just work out of the box, so I suggest you give it a try.

And by the way, not all HD channels are DVB-S2.

> yes? thats a shame! how you can use it under VDR, when it doesnt even
> tune in with szap-s2? please provide a better look at how you managed
> to get this card working and it would be helpful to provide some
> szap-s2 output on a HD / DVB-S2 channel, so that I can see if it tunes
> in to you.

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prof -> Gymnase de Chamblandes, Avenue des Désertes 29, 1009 Pully
sip -> 310546@sip.freesip.ch  / gsm -> +41 78 765 65 00
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Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

ah. so i see you had some problems as well. thats better, because as
long as i am not the only one maybe some time it will work.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:49:25 +0200
Gregoire Favre <gregoire.favre@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:39:46PM +0200, Lars Schotte wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I have no time to loose in szap or other clones, when S2-API
> was introduced I took lot of time in order to have a working setup,
> but now, VDR just work out of the box, so I suggest you give it a try.
> 
> And by the way, not all HD channels are DVB-S2.
> 
> > yes? thats a shame! how you can use it under VDR, when it doesnt
> > even tune in with szap-s2? please provide a better look at how you
> > managed to get this card working and it would be helpful to provide
> > some szap-s2 output on a HD / DVB-S2 channel, so that I can see if
> > it tunes in to you.
> 

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Gregoire Favre]

On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 02:51:54PM +0200, Lars Schotte wrote:

> ah. so i see you had some problems as well. thats better, because as
> long as i am not the only one maybe some time it will work.

??? It was the developpement process and Disecq wasn't working right in
the driver, which is now fixed, so the time I spent for this card should
be good for you.
-- 
Grégoire Favre, Chemin de Mallieu 15, 1009 Pully, +41 21 550 61 93 
prof -> Gymnase de Chamblandes, Avenue des Désertes 29, 1009 Pully
sip -> 310546@sip.freesip.ch  / gsm -> +41 78 765 65 00
http://www.gycham.vd.ch/~greg / netvoip.ch : +41 21 544 77 44

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

I dont have a Diseq swich installed at the moment.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:56:36 +0200
Gregoire Favre <gregoire.favre@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 02:51:54PM +0200, Lars Schotte wrote:
> 
> > ah. so i see you had some problems as well. thats better, because as
> > long as i am not the only one maybe some time it will work.
> 
> ??? It was the developpement process and Disecq wasn't working right
> in the driver, which is now fixed, so the time I spent for this card
> should be good for you.

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Niels Wagenaar]

No offence. But all these problems are complete FUD. I've been using a
HVR-4000 and a NOVA-HD-S2 since VDR 1.7.0 (which required multiproto)
and since I made the S2API-patch for VDR 1.7.0 (which I released in
October 2009). I've never experienced these issues in the past 1,5
years.

DiSEqC handling is no problem at all. I've set it up with DiSEqC 1.0
and 1.2 in combination with VDR. And I've never seen any lock problems
with DVB-S2 channels using QPSK or 8PSK modulation on Hotbird 13.0e,
Astra 19.2e, Astra 23.5e and Astra 28.2e.

If you need channellists (why even use something like szap, scan or
wscan if you can download it yourself), just go to Linowsat [1] or VDR
Settings [2]. And here's an example for a diseqc.conf which I've used
since the beginning:

# port 1 option a position a -> Astra 19.2e
# port 2 option a position b -> Hotbird 13.0e
# port 3 option b position a -> Astra 23.5e
# port 4 option b position b -> Astra 28.2e / Eurobird 28.5e
#
# port 1
S19.2E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W100 [E0 10 38 F0] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 A W15 t
S19.2E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W100 [E0 10 38 F1] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 A W15 T
S19.2E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W100 [E0 10 38 F2] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 A W15 t
S19.2E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W100 [E0 10 38 F3] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 A W15 T
# port 2
S13.0E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W100 [E0 10 38 F4] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
S13.0E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W100 [E0 10 38 F5] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
S13.0E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W100 [E0 10 38 F6] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
S13.0E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W100 [E0 10 38 F7] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
# port 3
S23.5E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F8] W100 [E0 10 38 F8] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 A W15 t
S23.5E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F9] W100 [E0 10 38 F9] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 A W15 T
S23.5E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FA] W100 [E0 10 38 FA] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 A W15 t
S23.5E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FB] W100 [E0 10 38 FB] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 A W15 T
# port 4
S28.2E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 FC] W100 [E0 10 38 FC] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
S28.2E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 FD] W100 [E0 10 38 FD] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
S28.2E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FE] W100 [E0 10 38 FE] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
S28.2E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FF] W100 [E0 10 38 FF] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
S28.5E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 FC] W100 [E0 10 38 FC] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
S28.5E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 FD] W100 [E0 10 38 FD] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
S28.5E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FE] W100 [E0 10 38 FE] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
S28.5E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FF] W100 [E0 10 38 FF] W100
[E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T


2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> I dont have a Diseq swich installed at the moment.
>
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:56:36 +0200
> Gregoire Favre <gregoire.favre@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 02:51:54PM +0200, Lars Schotte wrote:
>>
>> > ah. so i see you had some problems as well. thats better, because as
>> > long as i am not the only one maybe some time it will work.
>>
>> ??? It was the developpement process and Disecq wasn't working right
>> in the driver, which is now fixed, so the time I spent for this card
>> should be good for you.


-- 
Met vriendelijke groet/Regards,

Niels Wagenaar

-- Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

1) http://www.linowsat.de/settings/vdr.html or
2) http://www.vdr-settings.com/download/channels/

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

OK,
i am using w_scan, it scanned and found DVB-S2 channels but szap-s2
doesnt tune in and there is no data, exactly like i said, so either you
are lying and you have none of this things running or you were paid by
huappauge to say this.

i am using fedora 13 and HVR4000 and only DVB-S works. mplayer has the
same problem and again - I have no diseq switch installed.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:28:07 +0200
Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> No offence. But all these problems are complete FUD. I've been using a
> HVR-4000 and a NOVA-HD-S2 since VDR 1.7.0 (which required multiproto)
> and since I made the S2API-patch for VDR 1.7.0 (which I released in
> October 2009). I've never experienced these issues in the past 1,5
> years.
> 
> DiSEqC handling is no problem at all. I've set it up with DiSEqC 1.0
> and 1.2 in combination with VDR. And I've never seen any lock problems
> with DVB-S2 channels using QPSK or 8PSK modulation on Hotbird 13.0e,
> Astra 19.2e, Astra 23.5e and Astra 28.2e.
> 
> If you need channellists (why even use something like szap, scan or
> wscan if you can download it yourself), just go to Linowsat [1] or VDR
> Settings [2]. And here's an example for a diseqc.conf which I've used
> since the beginning:
> 
> # port 1 option a position a -> Astra 19.2e
> # port 2 option a position b -> Hotbird 13.0e
> # port 3 option b position a -> Astra 23.5e
> # port 4 option b position b -> Astra 28.2e / Eurobird 28.5e
> #
> # port 1
> S19.2E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W100 [E0 10 38 F0] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 A W15 t
> S19.2E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W100 [E0 10 38 F1] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 A W15 T
> S19.2E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W100 [E0 10 38 F2] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 A W15 t
> S19.2E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W100 [E0 10 38 F3] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 A W15 T
> # port 2
> S13.0E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W100 [E0 10 38 F4] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
> S13.0E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W100 [E0 10 38 F5] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
> S13.0E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W100 [E0 10 38 F6] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
> S13.0E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W100 [E0 10 38 F7] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
> # port 3
> S23.5E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F8] W100 [E0 10 38 F8] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 A W15 t
> S23.5E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 F9] W100 [E0 10 38 F9] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 A W15 T
> S23.5E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FA] W100 [E0 10 38 FA] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 A W15 t
> S23.5E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FB] W100 [E0 10 38 FB] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 A W15 T
> # port 4
> S28.2E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 FC] W100 [E0 10 38 FC] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
> S28.2E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 FD] W100 [E0 10 38 FD] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
> S28.2E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FE] W100 [E0 10 38 FE] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
> S28.2E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FF] W100 [E0 10 38 FF] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
> S28.5E  11700 V  9750   t v W15 [E0 10 38 FC] W100 [E0 10 38 FC] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
> S28.5E  99999 V 10600   t v W15 [E0 10 38 FD] W100 [E0 10 38 FD] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
> S28.5E  11700 H  9750   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FE] W100 [E0 10 38 FE] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 t
> S28.5E  99999 H 10600   t V W15 [E0 10 38 FF] W100 [E0 10 38 FF] W100
> [E0 11 00] W100 B W15 T
> 
> 
> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> > I dont have a Diseq swich installed at the moment.
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:56:36 +0200
> > Gregoire Favre <gregoire.favre@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 02:51:54PM +0200, Lars Schotte wrote:
> >>
> >> > ah. so i see you had some problems as well. thats better,
> >> > because as long as i am not the only one maybe some time it will
> >> > work.
> >>
> >> ??? It was the developpement process and Disecq wasn't working
> >> right in the driver, which is now fixed, so the time I spent for
> >> this card should be good for you.
> 
> 

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Niels Wagenaar]

Me? Lying? Before even telling me that I'm paid by Hauppauge, please
be sure to read my post. I wrote that it works like a charm in
combination with VDR (Google it). I've never used szap-s2 since I use
VDR for my TV playback.

By my better judgement I'm going to give you an other option. If you
want to watch some TV without many options to configure (just install,
scan and watch through VLC, mplayer, xbmc or whatever), you might want
to check TV Headend
(http://www.lonelycoder.com/hts/tvheadend_overview.html). It works
like a charm with my NOVA-HD-S2.

Oh and for your information. The DVB-T and DVB-S[2] of the device
can't be used at the same time. It's not a driver issue, it's a
hardware issue. In Windows you aren't able to do the same.

The card (if it's the HVR-4000 or the NOVA-HD-S2) works perfectly
under Linux. I even got it working with Kaffeine.

2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> OK,
> i am using w_scan, it scanned and found DVB-S2 channels but szap-s2
> doesnt tune in and there is no data, exactly like i said, so either you
> are lying and you have none of this things running or you were paid by
> huappauge to say this.
>
> i am using fedora 13 and HVR4000 and only DVB-S works. mplayer has the
> same problem and again - I have no diseq switch installed.
>

-- 
Met vriendelijke groet/Regards,

Niels Wagenaar

-- Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

how do you think i watch DVB-S?

now you are lying, and that for sure!
because mplayer has still this tunig issue, because he doesnt know that
coderate shit, and even so, i tried it w/ szap-s2 -r option and tried
to play it and only sound came out, so ... maybe you should check it
before writing again.

VLC and these ... players will do the same ... there is nothing better
than mplayer out there. mplayer is the best!!

i know, that DVB-T on HVR4000 is supported by linux, because yes it
works to me, but it doesnt find any programmes, so i would suggest you
try it out by yourself before writing again. like I wrote to the first
post - it works but is not usable (maybe internal noise too high).

analog TV works, and FM i didnt check.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:45:45 +0200
Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Me? Lying? Before even telling me that I'm paid by Hauppauge, please
> be sure to read my post. I wrote that it works like a charm in
> combination with VDR (Google it). I've never used szap-s2 since I use
> VDR for my TV playback.
> 
> By my better judgement I'm going to give you an other option. If you
> want to watch some TV without many options to configure (just install,
> scan and watch through VLC, mplayer, xbmc or whatever), you might want
> to check TV Headend
> (http://www.lonelycoder.com/hts/tvheadend_overview.html). It works
> like a charm with my NOVA-HD-S2.
> 
> Oh and for your information. The DVB-T and DVB-S[2] of the device
> can't be used at the same time. It's not a driver issue, it's a
> hardware issue. In Windows you aren't able to do the same.
> 
> The card (if it's the HVR-4000 or the NOVA-HD-S2) works perfectly
> under Linux. I even got it working with Kaffeine.
> 
> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> > OK,
> > i am using w_scan, it scanned and found DVB-S2 channels but szap-s2
> > doesnt tune in and there is no data, exactly like i said, so either
> > you are lying and you have none of this things running or you were
> > paid by huappauge to say this.
> >
> > i am using fedora 13 and HVR4000 and only DVB-S works. mplayer has
> > the same problem and again - I have no diseq switch installed.
> >
> 

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Niels Wagenaar]

2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> how do you think i watch DVB-S?

I really don't know, I really don't care.

> now you are lying, and that for sure!

I do not. Please, read my information carefully. You seem to miss something.

> because mplayer has still this tunig issue, because he doesnt know that
> coderate shit, and even so, i tried it w/ szap-s2 -r option and tried
> to play it and only sound came out, so ... maybe you should check it
> before writing again.
>

I've never tried mplayer in combination with szap-s2. Like I told you
before, I use VDR in combination with Xine.

> VLC and these ... players will do the same ... there is nothing better
> than mplayer out there. mplayer is the best!!
>



> i know, that DVB-T on HVR4000 is supported by linux, because yes it
> works to me, but it doesnt find any programmes, so i would suggest you
> try it out by yourself before writing again. like I wrote to the first
> post - it works but is not usable (maybe internal noise too high).
>
> analog TV works, and FM i didnt check.
>

To proof to you (and the rest of this world) I'm not lying or
whatever, here's my attempt with scan-s2 and szap-s2:

- I made an file called hd_astra with the following contents:

S 11361000 H 22000000 2/3

- Then I scanned with scan-s2:

./scan-s2 -o zap ./hd_astra > ~/channels.conf

- Which gave me the following information:

Das Erste HD:11361:h:0:22000:6010:6020:11100:6
ZDF HD:11361:h:0:22000:6110:6120:11110:6
arte HD:11361:h:0:22000:6210:6221:11120:6

- Then I used szap-s2

./szap-s2 -c ~/channels.conf -S 1 -M 5 -C 23 -n 2

- Which gave me the following output:

root@ubuntu:/usr/local/src/szap-s2# ./szap-s2 -c ~/channels.conf -S 1
-M 5 -C 23 -n 2
reading channels from file '/home/htpc/channels.conf'
zapping to 2 'ZDF HD':
delivery DVB-S2, modulation 8PSK
sat 0, frequency 11361 MHz H, symbolrate 22000000, coderate 2/3, rolloff 0.35
vpid 0x17de, apid 0x17e8, sid 0x2b66
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
status 00 | signal 05aa | snr 002e | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe |
status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002d | ber 00516155 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002d | ber 00145855 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK

It locks. So mplayer should make it work. I can't test this since I
don't have mplayer installed. But I think that some apologies are in
order, since the issue is not with your hardware or szap-s2.

> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:45:45 +0200
> Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> Me? Lying? Before even telling me that I'm paid by Hauppauge, please
>> be sure to read my post. I wrote that it works like a charm in
>> combination with VDR (Google it). I've never used szap-s2 since I use
>> VDR for my TV playback.
>>
>> By my better judgement I'm going to give you an other option. If you
>> want to watch some TV without many options to configure (just install,
>> scan and watch through VLC, mplayer, xbmc or whatever), you might want
>> to check TV Headend
>> (http://www.lonelycoder.com/hts/tvheadend_overview.html). It works
>> like a charm with my NOVA-HD-S2.
>>
>> Oh and for your information. The DVB-T and DVB-S[2] of the device
>> can't be used at the same time. It's not a driver issue, it's a
>> hardware issue. In Windows you aren't able to do the same.
>>
>> The card (if it's the HVR-4000 or the NOVA-HD-S2) works perfectly
>> under Linux. I even got it working with Kaffeine.
>>
>> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
>> > OK,
>> > i am using w_scan, it scanned and found DVB-S2 channels but szap-s2
>> > doesnt tune in and there is no data, exactly like i said, so either
>> > you are lying and you have none of this things running or you were
>> > paid by huappauge to say this.
>> >
>> > i am using fedora 13 and HVR4000 and only DVB-S works. mplayer has
>> > the same problem and again - I have no diseq switch installed.
>> >
>>
>

-- 
Met vriendelijke groet,

Niels Wagenaar

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

you are right, it locks i found out by myself even before you had sent
this mail, you can check it, but try to play it with xine, you have
xine installed, like you said and lets see if that works!

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:39:30 +0200
Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> > how do you think i watch DVB-S?
> 
> I really don't know, I really don't care.
> 
> > now you are lying, and that for sure!
> 
> I do not. Please, read my information carefully. You seem to miss
> something.
> 
> > because mplayer has still this tunig issue, because he doesnt know
> > that coderate shit, and even so, i tried it w/ szap-s2 -r option
> > and tried to play it and only sound came out, so ... maybe you
> > should check it before writing again.
> >
> 
> I've never tried mplayer in combination with szap-s2. Like I told you
> before, I use VDR in combination with Xine.
> 
> > VLC and these ... players will do the same ... there is nothing
> > better than mplayer out there. mplayer is the best!!
> >
> 
> 
> 
> > i know, that DVB-T on HVR4000 is supported by linux, because yes it
> > works to me, but it doesnt find any programmes, so i would suggest
> > you try it out by yourself before writing again. like I wrote to
> > the first post - it works but is not usable (maybe internal noise
> > too high).
> >
> > analog TV works, and FM i didnt check.
> >
> 
> To proof to you (and the rest of this world) I'm not lying or
> whatever, here's my attempt with scan-s2 and szap-s2:
> 
> - I made an file called hd_astra with the following contents:
> 
> S 11361000 H 22000000 2/3
> 
> - Then I scanned with scan-s2:
> 
> ./scan-s2 -o zap ./hd_astra > ~/channels.conf
> 
> - Which gave me the following information:
> 
> Das Erste HD:11361:h:0:22000:6010:6020:11100:6
> ZDF HD:11361:h:0:22000:6110:6120:11110:6
> arte HD:11361:h:0:22000:6210:6221:11120:6
> 
> - Then I used szap-s2
> 
> ./szap-s2 -c ~/channels.conf -S 1 -M 5 -C 23 -n 2
> 
> - Which gave me the following output:
> 
> root@ubuntu:/usr/local/src/szap-s2# ./szap-s2 -c ~/channels.conf -S 1
> -M 5 -C 23 -n 2
> reading channels from file '/home/htpc/channels.conf'
> zapping to 2 'ZDF HD':
> delivery DVB-S2, modulation 8PSK
> sat 0, frequency 11361 MHz H, symbolrate 22000000, coderate 2/3,
> rolloff 0.35 vpid 0x17de, apid 0x17e8, sid 0x2b66
> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
> status 00 | signal 05aa | snr 002e | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe |
> status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe |
> FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002d | ber 00516155 | unc
> fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002d | ber
> 00145855 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr
> 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal
> 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK
> 
> It locks. So mplayer should make it work. I can't test this since I
> don't have mplayer installed. But I think that some apologies are in
> order, since the issue is not with your hardware or szap-s2.
> 
> > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:45:45 +0200
> > Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Me? Lying? Before even telling me that I'm paid by Hauppauge,
> >> please be sure to read my post. I wrote that it works like a charm
> >> in combination with VDR (Google it). I've never used szap-s2 since
> >> I use VDR for my TV playback.
> >>
> >> By my better judgement I'm going to give you an other option. If
> >> you want to watch some TV without many options to configure (just
> >> install, scan and watch through VLC, mplayer, xbmc or whatever),
> >> you might want to check TV Headend
> >> (http://www.lonelycoder.com/hts/tvheadend_overview.html). It works
> >> like a charm with my NOVA-HD-S2.
> >>
> >> Oh and for your information. The DVB-T and DVB-S[2] of the device
> >> can't be used at the same time. It's not a driver issue, it's a
> >> hardware issue. In Windows you aren't able to do the same.
> >>
> >> The card (if it's the HVR-4000 or the NOVA-HD-S2) works perfectly
> >> under Linux. I even got it working with Kaffeine.
> >>
> >> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> >> > OK,
> >> > i am using w_scan, it scanned and found DVB-S2 channels but
> >> > szap-s2 doesnt tune in and there is no data, exactly like i
> >> > said, so either you are lying and you have none of this things
> >> > running or you were paid by huappauge to say this.
> >> >
> >> > i am using fedora 13 and HVR4000 and only DVB-S works. mplayer
> >> > has the same problem and again - I have no diseq switch
> >> > installed.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> 

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

apologies to whom? to hauppauge?

the fact that it didnt lock in is a fact and the fact that mplayer
doesnt play it from dvr0 or from itselfs chennels.conf list is a fact
as well and then we have this DVB-T issue...

you know what, you were not helpful at all, all you do is arguing with
me what works and what doesnt, first you write how good it works and
everything is fine and now you are presenting this hack, because the HW
doesnt do sth. would be acceptable to say it first but not argumenting
that you were right using this knowlegde i found out by myself before.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:39:30 +0200
Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> > how do you think i watch DVB-S?
> 
> I really don't know, I really don't care.
> 
> > now you are lying, and that for sure!
> 
> I do not. Please, read my information carefully. You seem to miss
> something.
> 
> > because mplayer has still this tunig issue, because he doesnt know
> > that coderate shit, and even so, i tried it w/ szap-s2 -r option
> > and tried to play it and only sound came out, so ... maybe you
> > should check it before writing again.
> >
> 
> I've never tried mplayer in combination with szap-s2. Like I told you
> before, I use VDR in combination with Xine.
> 
> > VLC and these ... players will do the same ... there is nothing
> > better than mplayer out there. mplayer is the best!!
> >
> 
> 
> 
> > i know, that DVB-T on HVR4000 is supported by linux, because yes it
> > works to me, but it doesnt find any programmes, so i would suggest
> > you try it out by yourself before writing again. like I wrote to
> > the first post - it works but is not usable (maybe internal noise
> > too high).
> >
> > analog TV works, and FM i didnt check.
> >
> 
> To proof to you (and the rest of this world) I'm not lying or
> whatever, here's my attempt with scan-s2 and szap-s2:
> 
> - I made an file called hd_astra with the following contents:
> 
> S 11361000 H 22000000 2/3
> 
> - Then I scanned with scan-s2:
> 
> ./scan-s2 -o zap ./hd_astra > ~/channels.conf
> 
> - Which gave me the following information:
> 
> Das Erste HD:11361:h:0:22000:6010:6020:11100:6
> ZDF HD:11361:h:0:22000:6110:6120:11110:6
> arte HD:11361:h:0:22000:6210:6221:11120:6
> 
> - Then I used szap-s2
> 
> ./szap-s2 -c ~/channels.conf -S 1 -M 5 -C 23 -n 2
> 
> - Which gave me the following output:
> 
> root@ubuntu:/usr/local/src/szap-s2# ./szap-s2 -c ~/channels.conf -S 1
> -M 5 -C 23 -n 2
> reading channels from file '/home/htpc/channels.conf'
> zapping to 2 'ZDF HD':
> delivery DVB-S2, modulation 8PSK
> sat 0, frequency 11361 MHz H, symbolrate 22000000, coderate 2/3,
> rolloff 0.35 vpid 0x17de, apid 0x17e8, sid 0x2b66
> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
> status 00 | signal 05aa | snr 002e | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe |
> status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe |
> FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002d | ber 00516155 | unc
> fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002d | ber
> 00145855 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr
> 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal
> 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK
> 
> It locks. So mplayer should make it work. I can't test this since I
> don't have mplayer installed. But I think that some apologies are in
> order, since the issue is not with your hardware or szap-s2.
> 
> > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:45:45 +0200
> > Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Me? Lying? Before even telling me that I'm paid by Hauppauge,
> >> please be sure to read my post. I wrote that it works like a charm
> >> in combination with VDR (Google it). I've never used szap-s2 since
> >> I use VDR for my TV playback.
> >>
> >> By my better judgement I'm going to give you an other option. If
> >> you want to watch some TV without many options to configure (just
> >> install, scan and watch through VLC, mplayer, xbmc or whatever),
> >> you might want to check TV Headend
> >> (http://www.lonelycoder.com/hts/tvheadend_overview.html). It works
> >> like a charm with my NOVA-HD-S2.
> >>
> >> Oh and for your information. The DVB-T and DVB-S[2] of the device
> >> can't be used at the same time. It's not a driver issue, it's a
> >> hardware issue. In Windows you aren't able to do the same.
> >>
> >> The card (if it's the HVR-4000 or the NOVA-HD-S2) works perfectly
> >> under Linux. I even got it working with Kaffeine.
> >>
> >> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> >> > OK,
> >> > i am using w_scan, it scanned and found DVB-S2 channels but
> >> > szap-s2 doesnt tune in and there is no data, exactly like i
> >> > said, so either you are lying and you have none of this things
> >> > running or you were paid by huappauge to say this.
> >> >
> >> > i am using fedora 13 and HVR4000 and only DVB-S works. mplayer
> >> > has the same problem and again - I have no diseq switch
> >> > installed.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> 

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Lars Schotte]

and lets not forget, we have both found out that it does lock, but that
isnt dvb-s2 because there is no video, so what is it for?

it doesnt mean anything as long as there is no picture.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:39:30 +0200
Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> > how do you think i watch DVB-S?
> 
> I really don't know, I really don't care.
> 
> > now you are lying, and that for sure!
> 
> I do not. Please, read my information carefully. You seem to miss
> something.
> 
> > because mplayer has still this tunig issue, because he doesnt know
> > that coderate shit, and even so, i tried it w/ szap-s2 -r option
> > and tried to play it and only sound came out, so ... maybe you
> > should check it before writing again.
> >
> 
> I've never tried mplayer in combination with szap-s2. Like I told you
> before, I use VDR in combination with Xine.
> 
> > VLC and these ... players will do the same ... there is nothing
> > better than mplayer out there. mplayer is the best!!
> >
> 
> 
> 
> > i know, that DVB-T on HVR4000 is supported by linux, because yes it
> > works to me, but it doesnt find any programmes, so i would suggest
> > you try it out by yourself before writing again. like I wrote to
> > the first post - it works but is not usable (maybe internal noise
> > too high).
> >
> > analog TV works, and FM i didnt check.
> >
> 
> To proof to you (and the rest of this world) I'm not lying or
> whatever, here's my attempt with scan-s2 and szap-s2:
> 
> - I made an file called hd_astra with the following contents:
> 
> S 11361000 H 22000000 2/3
> 
> - Then I scanned with scan-s2:
> 
> ./scan-s2 -o zap ./hd_astra > ~/channels.conf
> 
> - Which gave me the following information:
> 
> Das Erste HD:11361:h:0:22000:6010:6020:11100:6
> ZDF HD:11361:h:0:22000:6110:6120:11110:6
> arte HD:11361:h:0:22000:6210:6221:11120:6
> 
> - Then I used szap-s2
> 
> ./szap-s2 -c ~/channels.conf -S 1 -M 5 -C 23 -n 2
> 
> - Which gave me the following output:
> 
> root@ubuntu:/usr/local/src/szap-s2# ./szap-s2 -c ~/channels.conf -S 1
> -M 5 -C 23 -n 2
> reading channels from file '/home/htpc/channels.conf'
> zapping to 2 'ZDF HD':
> delivery DVB-S2, modulation 8PSK
> sat 0, frequency 11361 MHz H, symbolrate 22000000, coderate 2/3,
> rolloff 0.35 vpid 0x17de, apid 0x17e8, sid 0x2b66
> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
> status 00 | signal 05aa | snr 002e | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe |
> status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe |
> FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002d | ber 00516155 | unc
> fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr 002d | ber
> 00145855 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal 05aa | snr
> 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK status 1b | signal
> 05aa | snr 002c | ber 00000000 | unc fffffffe | FE_HAS_LOCK
> 
> It locks. So mplayer should make it work. I can't test this since I
> don't have mplayer installed. But I think that some apologies are in
> order, since the issue is not with your hardware or szap-s2.
> 
> > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:45:45 +0200
> > Niels Wagenaar <n.wagenaar@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Me? Lying? Before even telling me that I'm paid by Hauppauge,
> >> please be sure to read my post. I wrote that it works like a charm
> >> in combination with VDR (Google it). I've never used szap-s2 since
> >> I use VDR for my TV playback.
> >>
> >> By my better judgement I'm going to give you an other option. If
> >> you want to watch some TV without many options to configure (just
> >> install, scan and watch through VLC, mplayer, xbmc or whatever),
> >> you might want to check TV Headend
> >> (http://www.lonelycoder.com/hts/tvheadend_overview.html). It works
> >> like a charm with my NOVA-HD-S2.
> >>
> >> Oh and for your information. The DVB-T and DVB-S[2] of the device
> >> can't be used at the same time. It's not a driver issue, it's a
> >> hardware issue. In Windows you aren't able to do the same.
> >>
> >> The card (if it's the HVR-4000 or the NOVA-HD-S2) works perfectly
> >> under Linux. I even got it working with Kaffeine.
> >>
> >> 2010/6/6 Lars Schotte <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de>:
> >> > OK,
> >> > i am using w_scan, it scanned and found DVB-S2 channels but
> >> > szap-s2 doesnt tune in and there is no data, exactly like i
> >> > said, so either you are lying and you have none of this things
> >> > running or you were paid by huappauge to say this.
> >> >
> >> > i am using fedora 13 and HVR4000 and only DVB-S works. mplayer
> >> > has the same problem and again - I have no diseq switch
> >> > installed.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> 

Re: [linux-dvb] hvr4000 doesnt work w/ dvb-s2 nor DVB-T

[Goga777]

my hvr4k also works well with dvb-s2
have a look please on http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-4000