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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] V4L BKL removal: first round
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:17:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201011151017.41453.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201011142348.51859.hverkuil@xs4all.nl>

On Sunday 14 November 2010 23:48:51 Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On Sunday, November 14, 2010 22:53:29 Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 November 2010, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > > This patch series converts 24 v4l drivers to unlocked_ioctl. These are low
> > > hanging fruit but you have to start somewhere :-)
> > > 
> > > The first patch replaces mutex_lock in the V4L2 core by mutex_lock_interruptible
> > > for most fops.
> > 
> > The patches all look good as far as I can tell, but I suppose the title is
> > obsolete now that the BKL has been replaced with a v4l-wide mutex, which
> > is what you are removing in the series.
> 
> I guess I have to rename it, even though strictly speaking the branch I'm
> working in doesn't have your patch merged yet.
> 
> BTW, replacing the BKL with a static mutex is rather scary: the BKL gives up
> the lock whenever you sleep, the mutex doesn't. Since sleeping is very common
> in V4L (calling VIDIOC_DQBUF will typically sleep while waiting for a new frame
> to arrive), this will make it impossible for another process to access any
> v4l2 device node while the ioctl is sleeping.
> 
> I am not sure whether that is what you intended. Or am I missing something?

I was aware that something like this could happen, but I apparently
misjudged how big the impact is. The general pattern for ioctls is that
those that get called frequently do not sleep, so it can almost always be
called with a mutex held.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-15  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-14 13:21 [RFC PATCH 0/8] V4L BKL removal: first round Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 13:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] v4l2-dev: use mutex_lock_interruptible instead of plain mutex_lock Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 13:22 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] BKL: trivial BKL removal from V4L2 radio drivers Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 13:22 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] cadet: use unlocked_ioctl Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 13:22 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] tea5764: convert to unlocked_ioctl Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 13:22 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] si4713: " Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 13:22 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] typhoon: " Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 13:23 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] dsbr100: " Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 13:23 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] BKL: trivial ioctl -> unlocked_ioctl video driver conversions Hans Verkuil
2010-11-14 21:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] V4L BKL removal: first round Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-14 22:48   ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-15  9:17     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2010-11-15  9:49       ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 12:19         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-11-16 12:35           ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 13:06             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-11-16 13:20               ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 14:22                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 14:50                   ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 15:13                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 15:27                       ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 15:30                         ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 16:01                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 16:32                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-11-16 16:49                             ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 18:38                               ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 19:23                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 19:59                                 ` Andy Walls
2010-11-16 20:29                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 21:10                                     ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-16 21:32                                       ` David Ellingsworth
2010-11-16 21:42                                         ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-17 15:36                                           ` David Ellingsworth

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