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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>, Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	trivial@kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Don't use linux/version.h anymore to indicate a per-driver version - Was: Re: [PATCH 03/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from include/
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:10:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110624231028.7f03dcae@stein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimj-oEDvWxMao6zJ_sudUntEVjO1w@mail.gmail.com>

On Jun 24 Devin Heitmueller wrote:
> Really, this is all about applications being able to jam a hack into
> their code that translates to "don't call this ioctl() with some
> particular argument if it's driver W less than version X, because the
> driver had a bug that is likely to panic the guy's PC".  Sure, it's a
> crummy solution, but at this point it's the best that we have got.

The second best.  The best that we have got is that the user runs a fixed
kernel.

Anyway; if this is the only purpose that this interface version¹ serves,
then Mauro's subsystem-centralized solution has the benefit that it
eliminates mistakes due to oversight by individual driver authors.
Especially because the kind of implementation behavior changes that are
tracked by this type of version datum are sometimes just discovered or
documented in hindsight.  On the other hand, Mauro's solution is redundant
to the uname(2) syscall.

¹) Yes, it is still an ABI version, nothing less.  With all its backwards
and forwards compatibility ramifications.
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-==-== -==- ==---
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-24 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <alpine.LNX.2.00.1106232344480.17688@swampdragon.chaosbits.net>
2011-06-23 21:58 ` [PATCH 03/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from include/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:15   ` Sage Weil
2011-06-24 11:21   ` [RFC] Don't use linux/version.h anymore to indicate a per-driver version - Was: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 11:26     ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-24 12:20       ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 13:29         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 13:45           ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 13:54             ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-24 14:37               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 18:25                 ` [PATCH] [media] Stop using linux/version.h on most drivers Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-25 10:09                   ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-25 12:14                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-27  0:59                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-06-24 18:34                 ` [RFC] Don't use linux/version.h anymore to indicate a per-driver version - Was: Re: [PATCH 03/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from include/ Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 18:48                   ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 21:04                     ` Andy Walls
2011-06-24 21:20                       ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 21:22                         ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 21:49                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 22:39                           ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 23:02                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 22:16                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 22:57                         ` Andy Walls
2011-06-24 21:10                     ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2011-06-24 21:52                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 21:44                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-29 21:54         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-23 22:11 ` [PATCH 10/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/media/dvb/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:14 ` [PATCH 11/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) for drivers/media/radio/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:17 ` [PATCH 12/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) for drivers/media/video/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-24  8:52   ` Laurent Pinchart

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