From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mga09.intel.com ([134.134.136.24]:20989 "EHLO mga09.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752056Ab1HHScp (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:32:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 11:32:41 -0700 From: Sarah Sharp To: Theodore Kilgore Cc: Hans de Goede , Greg KH , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, libusb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Alexander Graf , Gerd Hoffmann , hector@marcansoft.com, Jan Kiszka , Stefan Hajnoczi , pbonzini@redhat.com, Anthony Liguori , Jes Sorensen , Alan Stern , Oliver Neukum , Felipe Balbi , Clemens Ladisch , Jaroslav Kysela , Takashi Iwai , Laurent Pinchart , Adam Baker Subject: Re: USB mini-summit at LinuxCon Vancouver Message-ID: <20110808183241.GA7256@xanatos> References: <20110610002103.GA7169@xanatos> <4E3B1B7B.2040501@infradead.org> <20110804225603.GA2557@kroah.com> <4E3B9FB4.30709@redhat.com> <20110808175837.GA6398@xanatos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 01:23:56PM -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote: > > > On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Sarah Sharp wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:45:56AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 08/05/2011 12:56 AM, Greg KH wrote: > > > >On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 07:21:47PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > > I think it is important to separate oranges from apples here, there are > > > at least 3 different problem classes which all seem to have gotten thrown > > > onto a pile here: > > > > > > 1) The reason Mauro suggested having some discussion on this at the > > > USB summit is because of a discussion about dual mode cameras on the > > > linux media list. > > ... > > > 3) Re-direction of usb devices to virtual machines. This works by using > > > the userspace usbfs interface from qemu / vmware / virtualbox / whatever. > > > The basics of this work fine, but it lacks proper locking / safeguards > > > for when a vm takes over a usb device from the in kernel driver. > > > > Hi Hans and Mauro, > > > > We have do room in the schedule for the USB mini-summit for this > > discussion, since the schedule is still pretty flexible. The > > preliminary schedule is up here: > > > > http://userweb.kernel.org/~sarah/linuxcon-usb-minisummit.html > > > > I think it's best to discuss the VM redirection in the afternoon when > > some of the KVM folks join us after Hans' talk on USB redirection over > > the network. > > > > It sounds like we need a separate topic for the dual mode cameras and TV > > tuners. Mauro, do you want to lead that discussion in the early morning > > (in a 9:30 to 10:30 slot) or in the late afternoon (in a 15:30 to 16:30 > > slot)? I want to be sure we have all the video/media developers who are > > interested in this topic present, and I don't know if they will be going > > to the KVM forum. > > Sarah, > > Alas. I would suspect that I am one of the people most interested in the > topic of dual-mode cameras, since I have worked on supporting them both in > libgphoto2 and in the kernel. But I teach in a university for a living, > and the first classes of Fall Semester 2011 start on August 17 in Auburn, > Alabama. Knowing this, I decided, months ago, that I simply could not > attend a conference which starts on August 16 in Vancouver. > > So, after starting all of the current mailing-list discussion on the topic > I will not be at the conference. I can only hope that those who do attend > will keep me current about what gets discussed. No worries, I'll be taking notes and post them to the Linux USB and Linux media lists. Sarah Sharp