From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Andreas Oberritter <obi@linuxtv.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
HoP <jpetrous@gmail.com>, Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage?
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 00:10:59 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111207161058.GC22355@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDF71AE.5070509@linuxtv.org>
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 03:01:18PM +0100, Andreas Oberritter wrote:
> Once and for all: We have *not* discussed a generic video streaming
> application. It's only, I repeat, only about accessing a remote DVB API
> tuner *as if it was local*. No data received from a satellite, cable or
> terrestrial DVB network shall be modified by this application!
> Virtually *every* user of it will use it in a LAN.
> It can't be so hard to understand.
You're talking about a purely software defined thing that goes in the
kernel - it pretty much has to be able to scale to other applications
even if some of the implementation is left for later. Once things like
this get included in the kernel they become part of the ABI and having
multiple specific things ends up being a recipie for confusion as users
have to work out which of the options is most appropriate for their
application.
Really this feels like the pattern we've got with audio where we
restrict the drivers to driving hardware and there's a userspace which
wraps that and can also dispatch to a userspace implementation without
applications worrying about it. Perhaps given the current entirely in
kernel implementation a simple loopback in the style of FUSE which
bounces the kernel APIs up to userspace for virtual drivers would make
sense.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-07 16:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-30 21:38 [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage? HoP
2011-11-30 21:52 ` Michael Krufky
2011-12-01 0:09 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-01 11:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-01 14:58 ` HoP
2011-12-01 17:38 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-01 19:59 ` HoP
2011-12-01 20:38 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-01 22:55 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-02 11:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-02 11:40 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2011-12-02 11:48 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-02 12:05 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2011-12-02 11:57 ` HoP
2011-12-02 17:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
[not found] ` <3D233F78EE854A4BA3D34C11AD4FAC1FDD141F@nasanexd01b.na.qualcomm.com>
2011-12-05 18:16 ` V4L2 driver node directory structure under /video directory Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-02 17:49 ` [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage? Rémi Denis-Courmont
2011-12-02 18:16 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-02 18:28 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-02 23:19 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-03 0:37 ` HoP
2011-12-05 10:21 ` Florian Fainelli
2011-12-05 14:28 ` HoP
2011-12-05 15:16 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-05 15:18 ` Michael Krufky
2011-12-06 0:16 ` HoP
2011-12-05 17:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-05 20:41 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-05 20:55 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-05 21:20 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-05 21:54 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-06 11:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-12-06 12:01 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 13:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 13:35 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 14:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 14:38 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 15:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 15:36 ` Manu Abraham
2011-12-06 11:21 ` Mark Brown
2011-12-06 12:01 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 14:19 ` Mark Brown
2011-12-06 14:48 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-07 13:49 ` Mark Brown
2011-12-07 14:01 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-07 16:10 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2011-12-07 16:56 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-07 16:58 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-07 21:48 ` Patrick Dickey
2011-12-07 22:53 ` Honza Petrouš
2011-12-07 23:55 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 17:19 ` Manu Abraham
2011-12-06 0:07 ` HoP
2011-12-06 13:22 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 13:49 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 14:19 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2011-12-06 15:05 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 14:20 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 15:00 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 17:35 ` HoP
2011-12-03 16:13 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-03 16:42 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-03 17:38 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-03 17:21 ` VDR User
2011-12-03 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-03 17:48 ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-12-04 23:54 ` HoP
2011-12-03 18:13 ` Hans Petter Selasky
2011-12-05 0:05 ` HoP
2011-12-03 18:17 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-03 23:30 ` Walter Van Eetvelt
2011-12-04 0:14 ` VDR User
2011-12-04 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-04 23:22 ` HoP
2011-12-05 1:45 ` VDR User
2011-12-05 6:20 ` HoP
2011-12-01 11:50 ` Communication misunderstanding? (was: Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage?) Patrick Boettcher
2011-12-01 12:33 ` [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device Rémi Denis-Courmont
2011-12-01 14:39 ` HoP
2011-12-02 18:32 ` [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage? VDR User
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