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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/14] media: add V4L2 DT binding documentation
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:46:16 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121010104615.GK17288@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121010092115.GW27665@pengutronix.de>

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:21:15AM +0200, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:51:27PM +0900, Mark Brown wrote:

> > Well, I'm unlikely to work on it as I don't have any systems which can
> > boot with device tree.

> If it's only that I'm sure we could spare a i.MX53 LOCO ;)

Well, something with Wolfson hardware would be helpful.

> > The big, big problem you've got doing this is lots of dynamic changes at 
> > runtime and in general complicated systems.  It's trivial to describe
> > the physical links but they don't provide anything like enough
> > information to use things.  Quite frankly I'm not sure device tree is a
> > useful investment of time for advanced audio systems anyway, it's really
> > not solving any problems people actually have.

> Right now the i.MX audmux binding is only enough to say which ports
> should be connected, but not which format should be used. Just today

Why should that be in DT?  For most things it's either fixed by the
hardware or makes no odds.

> we had the problem where a codec has two DAIs and wanted to add the
> information on which port our SSI unit is connected to the devicetree.

There's nothing stopping you doing that right now, the existing DT 

> So I think it's worthwile to do, but that would be a big big task...

For simple devices there's already stuff there and it's not hard to add
new machine bindings, it's trying to cover the general case that's far
too much effort.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-10 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1348754853-28619-1-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-6-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
2012-10-01 21:37   ` [PATCH 05/14] media: add a V4L2 OF parser Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-02  9:49     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-02 10:13       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-02 11:04         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 10:41         ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 10:58           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 11:23             ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 11:35               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 12:23               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 13:48                 ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 14:30                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 14:53                     ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 15:15                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 15:41                         ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 15:53                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 16:00                             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10 13:22                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 13:18                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 16:50                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 22:51                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-11 16:15                               ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 13:12                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 12:54                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 13:45                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-10 14:48                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 14:57                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-10 15:15                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-11 19:48                 ` Sakari Ailus
2012-10-13  0:16                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 18:30             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-05 18:45               ` Mark Brown
2012-10-08  9:40               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-09 10:34                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-09 11:00                   ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-10 13:25                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 20:23                       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-10 20:32                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10 21:12                           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-10 23:05                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 22:58                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 21:30             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 10:03   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-05 12:32 ` [PATCH 00/14] V4L2 DT support Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-05 14:41   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-5-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
2012-10-01 20:45   ` [PATCH 04/14] media: add V4L2 DT binding documentation Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-02 14:15   ` Rob Herring
2012-10-02 14:33     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-03 20:54       ` Rob Herring
2012-10-05  9:43         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 11:31           ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 11:37             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 20:00       ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-08 21:00         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 21:14           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-09  9:21             ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-09  9:29               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 15:10   ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-05 15:41     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 16:02       ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-08  7:58         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10  8:40           ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-10  8:51             ` Mark Brown
2012-10-10  9:21               ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-10 10:46                 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2012-10-08 20:12   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-11-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
2012-10-05 19:11   ` [PATCH 10/14] media: soc-camera: support OF cameras Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-08  8:37     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08  9:28       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-08  9:19   ` Barry Song
2013-04-08 11:21     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 11:49       ` Barry Song
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-8-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
2013-04-10 10:38   ` [PATCH 07/14] media: soc-camera: support deferred probing of clients Barry Song
2013-04-10 12:06     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-10 13:53       ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 13:56         ` Mark Brown
2013-04-10 14:00           ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 14:03         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-10 14:30           ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 14:43             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-10 15:02               ` Barry Song

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