linux-media.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>
Cc: "Frank Schäfer" <fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com>,
	"Devin Heitmueller" <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>,
	"Matthew Gyurgyik" <matthew@pyther.net>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David Härdeman" <david@hardeman.nu>
Subject: Re: em28xx: msi Digivox ATSC board id [0db0:8810]
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:23:36 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121213182336.2cca9da6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50C79E9A.3050301@iki.fi>

Em Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:59:06 +0200
Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi> escreveu:

> On 12/11/2012 10:51 PM, Frank Schäfer wrote:
> > Am 10.12.2012 21:48, schrieb Antti Palosaari:
> >> On 12/10/2012 09:24 PM, Frank Schäfer wrote:
> >>> Am 10.12.2012 18:57, schrieb Antti Palosaari:
> >>>> On 12/10/2012 06:13 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Frank Schäfer
> >>>>>> Adding a new property to the RC profile certainly seems to be the
> >>>>>> cleanest solution.
> >>>>>> Do all protocols have paritiy checking ? Otherwise we could add a new
> >>>>>> type RC_TYPE_NEC_NO_PARITY.
> >>>>>> OTOH, introducing a new bitfield in struct rc_map might be usefull
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> other flags, too, in the future...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's probably also worth mentioning that in that mode the device
> >>>>> reports four bytes, not two.  I guess perhaps if parity is ignored it
> >>>>> reports the data in some other format?  You will probably have to do
> >>>>> some experimentation there.
> >
> > ...
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> Uh, current em28xx NEC implementation is locked to traditional 16 bit
> >>>> NEC, where is hw checksum used.
> >>>>
> >>>> Implementation should be changed to more general to support 24 and 32
> >>>> bit NEC too. There is multiple drivers doing already that, for example
> >>>> AF9015.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hmm... are there and documents (, links, books, ...) where I can learn
> >>> more about all those RC protocols ?
> >>
> >> Specification comes here:
> >> NEC send always 32 bit, 4 bytes. There is 3 different "sub" protocols:
> >>
> >> 1) 16bit NEC standard, 1 byte address code, 1 byte key code
> >> full 4 byte code: AA BB CC DD
> >> where:
> >> AA = address code
> >> BB = ~address code
> >> CC = key code
> >> DD = ~key code
> >>
> >> checksum:
> >> AA + BB = 0xff
> >> CC + DD = 0xff
> >>
> >> 2) 24bit NEC extended, 2 byte address code, 1 byte key code
> >> full 4 byte code: AA BB CC DD
> >> where:
> >> AA = address code (MSB)
> >> BB = address code (LSB)
> >> CC = key code
> >> DD = ~key code
> >>
> >> 3) 32bit NEC full, 4 byte key code
> >> full 4 byte code: AA BB CC DD
> >> where:
> >> AA =
> >> BB =
> >> CC =
> >> DD =
> >>
> >> I am not sure if there is separate parts for address and key code in
> >> case of 32bit NEC. See some existing remote keytables if there is any
> >> such table. It is very rare protocol. 1) and 2) are much more common.
> >>
> >
> > Many thanks.
> > So the problem is, that we have only a single RC_TYPE for all 3 protocol
> > variants and need a method to distinguish between them, right ?

This is not actually needed, as it is very easy to distinguish them when
doing the table lookups. Take a look at v4l-utils, at /utils/keytable/rc_keymaps:

A 16-bits NEC table:
	# table kworld_315u, type: NEC
	0x6143 KEY_POWER
	0x6101 KEY_VIDEO
	...

A 24-bits NEC table:
	# table pixelview_002t, type: NEC
	0x866b13 KEY_MUTE
	0x866b12 KEY_POWER2
	...

A 32-bits NEC table:
	# table tivo, type: NEC
	0xa10c900f KEY_MEDIA
	0xa10c0807 KEY_POWER2
	...

If you see there, there's no way for the Kernel to handle it wrong, as
there's an implicit rule when dealing with "extended NEC" protocols:

Being the IR code being given by: AA BB CC DD

On a 24-bit NEC table: AA is always different than ~BB, otherwise, it would
be a 16-bit NEC.

On a 32-bit NEC table: CC is always different than ~DD, otherwise, it would be
a 24-bit NEC.

> Yes, that is. I have said it "million" times I would like to see that 
> implemented as a one single 4 byte NEC, but it is currently what it is. 

The hard thing is that, if this is changed upstream, existing
tools/keytables will break. So, regressions will be introduced.

> What I understand David Härdeman has done some work toward that too, but 
> it is not ready.

One alternative would be to add some compatibility code at the table
read function that would convert a 16 bits or 24 bits NEC keycode table
into a 32 bits one, but doing it right can be a problem.

> See current af9015 driver as example how driver makes decision which 
> variant of NEC is used. You will need something similar. Read all 4 NEC 
> bytes from the hardware and then use driver to make decision which 
> variant it is. I am quite sure em28xx hardware supports reading all 4 
> bytes, but if not, you will need to do some other tricks.
> 
> regards
> Antti
> 

Regards,
Mauro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-13 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-28  2:31 em28xx: msi Digivox ATSC board id [0db0:8810] Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-11-28 20:47 ` Frank Schäfer
2012-11-28 22:29   ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-11-28 22:55     ` Antti Palosaari
2012-11-29  2:05       ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-11-29  2:15         ` Antti Palosaari
2012-11-29 19:28           ` Frank Schäfer
2012-11-29 19:46             ` Antti Palosaari
2012-11-30  1:45             ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-02 11:44               ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-02 14:23                 ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-02 17:18                   ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-03 18:16                     ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-04  2:15                       ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-04  2:29                         ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-12-04  2:42                           ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-04  2:58                             ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-12-04 21:06                               ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-05  3:41                                 ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-05 12:35                                   ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-05 21:35                                     ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-05 22:01                                       ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-05 22:33                                         ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-06  0:55                                           ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-06  2:16                                             ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-06 21:49                                               ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-06 21:57                                                 ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-12-06 22:01                                                   ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-06 22:03                                                     ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-12-06 22:12                                                       ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-06 22:41                                                 ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-06 22:58                                                 ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-07  1:40                                                   ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-07  3:21                                                     ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-12-07 11:49                                                       ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-08 13:52                                                   ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-08 14:10                                                     ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-08 15:20                                                       ` Frank Schäfer
     [not found]                                                         ` <50C3701D.9000700@pyther .net>
     [not found]                                                           ` <50C37DA8.4080608@googlemai l.com>
     [not found]                                                             ` <50C3B3EB.40606@pyther .net>
     [not found]                                                               ` <50C3B567.3070300@i ki.fi>
2012-12-08 16:51                                                         ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-08 17:49                                                           ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-08 21:40                                                             ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-08 21:47                                                               ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-08 22:04                                                                 ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-09 12:48                                                                   ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-09 14:50                                                                     ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-09 15:46                                                                       ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-12-09 16:19                                                                         ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-09 16:23                                                                           ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-09 17:06                                                                             ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-09 17:53                                                                               ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-10 15:39                                                                                 ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-10 15:46                                                                                   ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-12-10 16:01                                                                                     ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-10 16:13                                                                                       ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-12-10 17:57                                                                                         ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-10 19:24                                                                                           ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-10 20:48                                                                                             ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-11 20:51                                                                                               ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-11 20:59                                                                                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-12 21:25                                                                                                   ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-12 21:34                                                                                                     ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-13 15:09                                                                                                       ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-13 16:02                                                                                                         ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-13 20:23                                                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2012-12-14 15:33                                                                                                     ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-14 16:32                                                                                                       ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-14 16:40                                                                                                         ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-14 19:39                                                                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-15  0:26                                                                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-15  0:34                                                                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-15  0:56                                                                                                           ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-15  1:03                                                                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-15  1:12                                                                                                               ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-15  1:39                                                                                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-15  1:54                                                                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-15 13:11                                                                                                               ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-15 13:34                                                                                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-15 13:38                                                                                                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-15 16:21                                                                                                                   ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-15 16:51                                                                                                                     ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-16 18:15                                                                                                                       ` Frank Schäfer
2012-12-17  1:09                                                                                                                       ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-17  1:26                                                                                                                         ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-17  1:37                                                                                                                           ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-17  9:33                                                                                                                             ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-17 11:08                                                                                                                               ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-17 11:17                                                                                                                                 ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-17 12:30                                                                                                                                   ` Antti Palosaari
2012-12-17 15:53                                                                                                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-17 16:14                                                                                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-18  2:27                                                                                                                                     ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-18  3:08                                                                                                                                     ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2013-01-02 20:59                                                                                                                                       ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-03  2:53                                                                                                                                         ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2013-01-20 14:40                                                                                                                                           ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2013-01-20 17:46                                                                                                                                             ` Antti Palosaari
2013-02-16 23:38                                                                                                                                               ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2013-02-24 22:23                                                                                                                                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-02-25  1:58                                                                                                                                                   ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2013-01-03  0:18                                                                                                   ` David Härdeman
2012-12-13 20:07                                                                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-13 20:36                                                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-13 19:57                                                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-13 20:04                                                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-12-10 16:01                                                                                   ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-06  2:32                                 ` Matthew Gyurgyik
2012-12-06 21:52                                   ` Frank Schäfer

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20121213182336.2cca9da6@redhat.com \
    --to=mchehab@redhat.com \
    --cc=crope@iki.fi \
    --cc=david@hardeman.nu \
    --cc=dheitmueller@kernellabs.com \
    --cc=fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com \
    --cc=linux-media@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=matthew@pyther.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).